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Translating Sotilaskasiaseet Suomessa 1918-1988 into English

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Ever since I started collecting Finn's I've wanted a set of Markku Palokangas's excellent books on Finnish weapons, Sotilaskasiaseet Suomessa 1918-1988 but very few sets made it to the U.S. so they are rarely seen and expensive. Last week a set popped up on eBay of all places with a reasonable buy it now price so I snapped it up quickly. The pictures are awesome and I've been reading through the English captions and summaries but I'd love to read the main text as well. I'm planning on buying a scanner to scan the text on to my laptop and then use Google translate to read it. Has anyone found a better way to translate Finnish text into English?
 

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The last time I tried to do something like this was when Chumak's SVT book came out. I had to scan each page of text and then run it through an Optical Character Recognition program (Abbyreader, I believe it was). This programs purpose is to create a Word document in cyrillic which can then be translated by Google Translate or something else. The cost per page of the OCR was pretty small and the Google translate I used was/is free. The results were "useful" with many complete paragraphs making good sense. These would be interspersed with patches of gibberish. I never knew where the problem lay- inaccurate recognition of letters by the OCR program or poor translation capability of free Google. As with SSG_Lord, I did this strictly for personal use and did get a lot out of it. Anyone out there know if there is a better way to do this?

Ruprecht
 
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If you have a smartphone, the google translate app lets you take a photo and translate from that. It also does live translate where you use the screen to look at works, and it turns them into English. It is really crazy. Download google translate and play around with it!
 
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Well good luck getting complete translations of the Finn text. I've lived in an area of an unusually large Finn heritage and the language is spoken by many. The funny thing is that one Finn speaker always says their's is the 'true Finn' and "dose udder guys, day don no da reel Finn der eh!" They still use the regional dialects from the old country. Have fun! Soumi Kutsu.
 
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Free OCR software is available from https://download.cnet.com/windows/ and some other websites. I once used it to digitize "The American War" by Carlo Botta so any recent OCR program should work pretty good. Written Finnish is probably much more regular than spoken.
 
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Written Finnish is probably much more regular than spoken.
It is - Finnish books are typically written with standard language (kirjakieli), not with dialects. What I have heard there have been some development in translating Finnish to other languages recently at least with google translate. So I just did a small text and it now seems to do fairly good job in translating basic Finnish text that is in standard language (still some issues with verbs etc), but when it comes to special vocabilary the results tend to be total gibberish. No idea about other translation tools, but I suspect they are not able to do much better.

Jarkko
 
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Hello! Wow old post, I did a double take. My efforts to translate these books using an optical scanner and one of several translation programs were not terribly effective. Some paragraphs were sort of understandable and others were gibberish. It would appear that the Finnish language isn't easily translated using these systems and I shelved the project a few years ago. Volume 2 does have a short section on the M28/76 but I never got that far into it. Luckily, we English speakers no longer have to resort to this kind of effort to learn about Finnish rifles. Author and Gunboards member Matt DiRisio recently released an excellent reference book on Finnish military firearms and it has a section on the M28/76. This book is an awesome work and most importantly it's in English for those of us too old to try learning Finnish ;) The book is currently still in stock and shipping but it's a limited run so that won't always be true, get one soon. Here is a link to the post covering this book, the link to the publishing company's website is at the top of page #1.
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