Well, I was able to try out both of these .308 Win. 147 grs-varieties as well as their 167 grs match round. In an old rifle.. Everything works fine. I'm sorry to read what happened to you, anthony - but sometimes a weapon and an ammo-type don't match at all, unfortunately. A fact of experience.. . Because of quite different reasons.. . A gunsmith did analyze that and could help you, I suppose ?

I read circa a dozen feedbacks for this 147 grs-Saltech, by far most had no complains.


Saltech 308 Win Ammunition Ball M80 ST308M80CASE 147 Grain Full Metal Jacket CASE 1000 Rounds 0.75 Dollar per Round



Saltech .308 Winchester Ammo at Fast Ammo 147 grs FMJ 0.67 Dollar per Round



Saltech .308win 147gr. FMJ 520rd Case | Palmetto State Armory 0.80 Dollar per Round



And finally: 308 Ammo for Sale | Bulk .308 Ammo Deals & Prices. The PMC, the GGG, the Saltech, the Igman, the PPU-147 grain-FMJ-Rounds: prices from 0.62 Dollar onwards.


ITWORKEDOUT: your tip doesn't exactly make sense, given such offers, ?.. A minimum of quality usually cost's something, see above.

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I would steer clear of this stuff.....

Personally there is plenty of S. African, German, Port, and other quality surp in that market that can be found cheaper if you beat the bushes......

 

The green Headstamp-Round

 

The old 147 grs-"White Box"-Ammo reached until 873 m/s or 2864 f/s-Muzzle-Velocity.

The new 147 grs-"Red-Box"-Round had 843 m/s or 2765 f/s as an MV.

With good accuracy, too.

 

Two different Saltech-Boxes..
An older and a newer one.. .

 

From the Saltech site - 'The majority of our products are qualified and deployed by NATO and the Swiss Armed Forces'.

I have never heard of it here in UK, where, as some of you know, there are many, many regular shooters of .308 Win calibre rifles in TR.

Going back a few weeks, I emole them asking for the name of a UK dealership. The rest, as they say, 'is silence'..................

Everhow, here's a YouTube gweth from four years back -

 

You pays your money and..................................well, you know the rest.

 

This Swiss 308 showed up at the range last week, seems well made and standard M1A, FN FAL menu ammo. Suspect 147 gr FMJ bullets but certainly no more than 150 gr. So how did it shoot, well the guy with it was a new shooter, waltzed to 1000 yd line and got an education this ammo was not precision long range ammunition so he wisely boxed it up and headed to the 300 yd range. I've heard of no new GP11 imported ammo nor vendors selling such. If indeed true, someone post so others here can scramble for it. Hopefully the price is not too stiff.

per the SALTECH website 147 gr FMJ 24 inch barrel 1/10 twist 70 degree weather - muzzle velocity 2788 FPS at muzzle. At 1000 meters a drop of 289 inches.

 

Follow-up. I bought a bunch. first two rounds fired jammed in the chamber and bolt locked forward. Had to take rifle apart both times. The brass case rim sheared off. First jam - brass was attached to my bolt and second jam I needed a cleaning rod to remove case.

 

'...doesn't have the NATO cross...'

Simple reason for that is that Switzerland is not in NATO. The NATO organisation is not going to rubber-stamp anything made by a non-member.

 

This Swiss 308 showed up at the range last week, seems well made and standard M1A, FN FAL menu ammo. Suspect 147 gr FMJ bullets but certainly no more than 150 gr. So how did it shoot, well the guy with it was a new shooter, waltzed to 1000 yd line and got an education this ammo was not precision long range ammunition so he wisely boxed it up and headed to the 300 yd range.

I've heard of no new GP11 imported ammo nor vendors selling such. If indeed true, someone post so others here can scramble for it. Hopefully the price is not too stiff.

 

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This Swiss 308 showed up at the range last week, seems well made and standard M1A, FN FAL menu ammo. Suspect 147 gr FMJ bullets but certainly no more than 150 gr. So how did it shoot, well the guy with it was a new shooter, waltzed to 1000 yd line and got an education this ammo was not precision long range ammunition so he wisely boxed it up and headed to the 300 yd range.

I've heard of no new GP11 imported ammo nor vendors selling such. If indeed true, someone post so others here can scramble for it. Hopefully the price is not too stiff.

I too figured 147-155gr. loads due to it being called "range". The website does mention training ammo and specifically delineated sniper ammo was in another category, but unfortunately NFI on the websight, not even photos.

At the April Chantilly, VA gunshow there was a vendor with GP11, it was NOT cheap, but a friend and I offered to buy six bricks if we could get a bulk deal. We got it at the low end of current prices, but at twice what I used to pay when it was available.

I did see 2 vendors with bricks and boxes of GP11 yesterday, but the 10 round boxes were $20 and the 60 round bricks were $90. Supplies were very limited and empty black case boxes that hold 480 rounds were not visible, so I suspect it is actually someone's stash being liquidated as the dates were all in the early 1980s.

The last recent importation of GP11 that I have seen was by Edelweiss Arms pre-pandemic. It was expensive and gone in a flash.

 

I’ve shot a bunch of the Saltech ammo that came in the 560 round cans. Pretty sure this is the same stuff just in a different package. The stuff I’ve seen has been more like .75 a round.

Shoots very well in most of my guns and was very accurate for standard range ammo. I’d buy more if I wasn’t broke. Hahaha.


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The stuff I’ve seen has been more like .75 a round.

Is that recent?

I wouldn't mind getting some of this, especially at that (relatively) lower price. I'd be tempted by a 560 round (spam?) can if they are still available somewhere.