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Quality of Albanian SKS

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#1 ·
So, Iraqveteran8888 put out a video this week featuring the Albanian SKS. Awesome. In the video he repeatedly states the Albanian SKS is crude, rougher, and overall much lower quality of other SKS. Not remembering my Albanian SKS to be any of the above, I dug it out and messed with it after not having touched it in nearly 4 years. I was determined to prove Eric wrong by verifiying myself that the Albanian SKS is a finely made firearm. Well, 5 minutes in this is what I encountered: a difficult to remove gas tube, a not-so-smooth bolt operation, a bayonet that doesn’t look straight even though there’s no obvious defect (e.g. signs of damage or misuse) a spongy trigger (moreso than other SKS’) and the coup de gras... the friggin’ front sight base and bayo lug can be twisted side to side with my hand. I noticed all the mentioned “quirks” years ago when I bought it from AIM, but I sure as snot didn’t know the damn FSB could be moved!! I would have remembered that, so I guess I never bothered to check (do you???). I’d otherwise call my SKS a G-VG condition rifle based on appearance.

Thus, I set out to disprove internet lies but now I’m feeling it’s not a bogus statement. The Albanian SKS’ may in fact be the worst of the lot!!

Am I wrong?
 
#4 ·
I think there is merit to the notion. As far as finish quality goes, it seems to adhere to a lower standard with the Albanian variant.

For example, I have an all matching 1969. Shoots great. No functionality problems whatsoever. However the firing pin hole on the bolt face is too small for a standard firing pin.

The firing pin it came with has noticeable honing marks at the tip-- an apparent DIY modification to get the firing pin to protrude far enough the strike the primer. I've only pu ~100rounds through it. All recovered casings had extreme light strikes.

I have tried three separate pins (used Russian, used chinese, and new chinese) and none them protrude far enough to strike the primer on a chambered round.


At 60 yards I got consistet 3-4 inch groups. And exactly ZERO function issues.

The hand guard is almost impossible to remove.

Luckily, the sks is a very forgiving design.
 
#5 ·
Albania being the poorest nation in the Balkans and perhaps the SKS their first attempt at domestic manufacture of any modern firearm, it is surprising the weapon is not more problematical. In addition, with the limited number of rifles produced over a number of years, improvements were likely few & far between. On the other hand, this is just what tends to make such a rifle attractive to the collector. Undoubtedly some perform better than others. I shot one of mine and other than needing to adjust the front sight blade, the rifle experienced no issues.
 
#10 ·
I have two, one that's beat up and mismatched, the other one is nearly pristine and remains "in the grease". I've only shot the beat up one but it functioned fine and had average SKS accuracy and trigger feel. It is not entirely surprising that they function well, since they almost certainly had significant Chinese assistance in setting up production at Gramsh, just as the Russians had assisted the Chinese in setting up their SKS production at Jianshe about 11 years earlier.
 
#18 ·
The extension spring in mine was so mangled that when I finally got the op-rod out, the spring had a 30° bend.

Luckily, the seller was the only owner post import (import tags still on the gun and cosmoline thruoghout internally), and he said he had never fired it since acquiring it.

I am curious niw if it would have still functioned with the mangled spring.
 
#19 ·
My Albies had 3/16” thick hard cosmoline on them.


To me nothing is refined on any brand of sks. The best accuracy I got so far with my Chinese norinco paratrooper is 1 1/2” groups at 100yds. Using norinco yellow box ammo. They all look crudely machined inside.
 
#22 ·
As to an Albanian SUV, over here we call that a mule with a cart. Been to the factory in Gramsh…….not state of the art! It does however match with a few of the low end Chinese factories (been to many of those). The Albanians put their factory way up in the mountains away from everything. It is now mostly deserted. The labor pool there must have been made up of goat herders since there isn't much around there. I got there early in the morning after a 3 hour trip from the capitol and had strong coffee and a water glass of peach brandy(shlebovich) to start the meeting!! Hello!! The factory hadn't been in operation for years. There has no CNC machinery everything was line dedicated. The tooling (what I could find) was old and incomplete. Bear in mind that the Albanians were trained by the Chinese not the Russians. Chinese factories were heated by a 55 gallon drum with a lump of coal in it when I first started going there in the 90s. We aren't talking high tech!! The guns do function well however.
US consumer standards are much different than Foreign military standards. Do you think that an Albanian Army inspector cares about surface finish an a weapon?? Hardly!! I remember going to the Cugir factory and trying to explain that we were getting returns of their AKs because the front sight was canted. They showed me that they shot perfectly. I know but it doesn't look right I told them!!!!!
Different criteria.
SteveK