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Pacom,

So you converted them (7.5x55 Swiss) from berdan to Boxer primed, you just can't verify a boxer large rifle primer works?
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
VA-Vet,
I got the 2 that I had left over from the first test, drilled (used a #17 drill bit .173 since they use the smaller .217 primers, man those cases have a thick base) and swaged out for the boxer prime but don't have a shell holder to seat a primer and verify that they actually will stay or seat and I have nothing to shoot them in
 
VA-Vet,
I got the 2 that I had left over from the first test, drilled (used a #17 drill bit .173 since they use the smaller .217 primers, man those cases have a thick base) and swaged out for the boxer prime but don't have a shell holder to seat a primer and verify that they actually will stay or seat and I have nothing to shoot them in
Willing to send those two cases to me?
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
they wouldn't be worth the shipping cost, too heavy and wide to go in a letter and not worth enough to go priority
 
Pacom,

I've got a bag of GP11 cases that I can't do anything with. Seems worth trying to me for you to convert and ship back to me. I'll pay shipping both ways. Sending me your 2 sample cases with confirm they hold primers and shoot fine, I'd pick up your cost to ship too.
 
Discussion starter · #30 ·
just tried making 5 more, long story short, I didn't get any I would be happy with. made up a new guide plate to fit the swiss heads. and a new wood block to hold the case. the flashhole drilling and rough hole went fine, but it goes south when i try to swage the pocket. I hate my Dillon swager, you cant see where the ram is when you have the case swung down to center it, and have 3 cases where the ram started off center and got the edge of the pocket and 2 that kinda crushed the ring a little when I swaged it. the lack of control is why I put it on the shelf when I got my rcbs swager die 4 years ago and you don't have to adjust the rod for every different headstamp you wanna swage.

maybe if they made a bigger inner diameter swager body for the rcbs it would be better results. why don't you just buy the swiss brass from grafs or natchez reloading
 
just tried making 5 more, long story short, I didn't get any I would be happy with. made up a new guide plate to fit the swiss heads. and a new wood block to hold the case. the flashhole drilling and rough hole went fine, but it goes south when i try to swage the pocket. I hate my Dillon swager, you cant see where the ram is when you have the case swung down to center it, and have 3 cases where the ram started off center and got the edge of the pocket and 2 that kinda crushed the ring a little when I swaged it. the lack of control is why I put it on the shelf when I got my rcbs swager die 4 years ago and you don't have to adjust the rod for every different headstamp you wanna swage.

maybe if they made a bigger inner diameter swager body for the rcbs it would be better results. why don't you just buy the swiss brass from grafs or natchez reloading
I'm thinking the CH4D swage tool would work great instead of the Dillon 600 unit. I have a 600 and while its fast, its not necessarily the easiest tool to use. I bought some inserts from Inline Fabrication.

Va-Vet
 
Maybe buy boxer PRVI brass from Grafs and be done with the nonsense.

Its not like in the 60s when there was no 7.5 Swiss brass to reload, today we got plenty.

However, this may be one of those "Yes I Can" things so have at it.
 
I can completely understand why people would do this with 7.5x55. The brass is high quality, just need to convert for boxer. It's a labor of love, not because of its ease. Especially when you have a few thousand cases.
 
Maybe buy boxer PRVI brass from Grafs and be done with the nonsense.

Its not like in the 60s when there was no 7.5 Swiss brass to reload, today we got plenty.

However, this may be one of those "Yes I Can" things so have at it.
I tend to agree in theory, but I just HATE the idea that all of that magnificent GP11 brass out there is only good for one-time use.

I tried converting some GP11 a couple of years ago and to solve the wandering drill bit problem for the flashhole, I would flatten off the anvil from the pocket side with an end mill from a Dremel tool, and would then use a bushing made from short pieces of small diameter brass (or aluminum) tubing I found at the hobby store to keep the drill bit centered inside the pocket.

This pretty much completely solved the wandering drill bit problem, and my flashholes were pretty well centered.

My problem with conversion was that I tried using the ball bearing method of swaging the primer pockets down to .210", but I didn't have anything handy that could repeatedly deliver the force necessary to do this.
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
or just buy the berdan primers and reload away. theres a guy in the WTS ads selling berdan .217 primers.
 
or just buy the berdan primers and reload away. theres a guy in the WTS ads selling berdan .217 primers.
Yeah, but he can't GET them to you without you going broke paying the HAZMAT fee. Plus, his asking price isn't all that cheap.

I also saw six bricks of Berdan primers for sale at the last gun show I went to, but his asking price of $60-plus dollars a brick made it REAL easy for me to keep walking.

I figure my time is almost free (I am retired and my former Company AND the Government are PAYING me to do nothing!:)). I should be able to rework the brass for a whole lot less than buying those Berdans.

Also, I am a Mechanical Engineer by training, so I welcome the challenge of figuring out how to get the conversion done. I have already picked up a couple of 'leads' here that I plan on trying.
 
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hes only abt 40 miles from me, but I don't have enough .217 sized brass to make it worthwhile
 
If you figure out a good method Ronbo6, I'll drive over to your place and do a small batch of 1000. :)

i just don't have the time right now to fiddle with it.
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
found out, hes selling 2 bricks on gunbroker for 145 plus 15 shipping


think im gonna try doing the 3/32 flash holes in my milling machine, I found I have 3 mills that small and a 3/16 r8 collet and my machinist buddy is making me a guide with hardened inserts as mine are starting to open up after 100ish cases
 
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