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"Modernized" Mosin Sniper Rifle in Use!

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Around the globe, people still use Mosin rifles, often in the sniper role, during combat. Recent wars in Syria and Ukraine are best examples of it..."Modernized" Mosin Sniper Rifle (import from the Ukraine) is here!


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#4 · (Edited)
Rob,

First...good shooting and outstanding video on a much underappreciated rifle here in USA. More than likely the reason its not well known as a great rifle is due to how it was imported here in the 50s to 80s...dog crap condition examples were dumped on the market same time great condition Enfields , Mausers , Springfields were being sold on surplus market. Add to sad condition, the ammo was mostly unavailable unless you bought a costly box of Norma back in those days so that added to the other and for Americans , important aspect...the Mosin is butt ugly . Its not even a pig wearing lipstick. Thus the Mosin was at the bottom along with ratty Carcano and Arisaka rifles that no one wanted. Final point, back in those days, the surplus rifles that were easily made into sporters which were in high demand, the Mosin, Carcano and Arisaka were not good candidates to sporterize so again they were despised (yeah and maybe that is too soft a word to use..maybe garbage is more accurate for the hate on those 3 rifles back then).

Secondly, on the shooting aspect which you demonstrated superbly on the video, the rifle has a 6x optic and that is more than adequate for the distances you are shooting a Mosin. We shoot that with the 3.5x PU sniper optic easily at 600 yds and with 2.5 x optic on o3A4 rifles. A optic of 6x just makes success more certain and is an outstanding optic power for combat purposes and we all know most combat shots take place about 350 yds. I'm not diminishing the shooting, the rifle or optic you are using , I'm flogging how much smarter it is to fit up that rifle with a 6x optic and capitalize what 6x brings to a sniper engaging man size targets . Granted what you created is a Fantasy sniper rifle but what you created does demonstrate the Mosin platform is deadly in the hands of talent.

762x54R is not a caliber to underestimate in performance. Its held is own for over 100 years and still going strong.
In fact it along with 303 Brit, 3006 , 7.7 Japanese were all man killers second to none. Rifle calibers in WWI and WWII were not to be taken lightly, they were deadly.

Noted...you engaged targets far smaller than man size which is top shelf shooting. Maybe do this regime of fire with a PU and your daughter shooting ? Same targets since she's a better shot than you and will be fine with the 3.5x optic on the PU. She won't need the "crutch" of a 6x optic to do this regime of fire. Just saying......
 
#6 ·
Noted...you engaged targets far smaller than man size which is top shelf shooting. Maybe do this regime of fire with a PU and your daughter shooting ? Same targets since she's a better shot than you and will be fine with the 3.5x optic on the PU. She won't need the "crutch" of a 6x optic to do this regime of fire. Just saying......
Lol, I kicked her out of the house because she kicks my ass regularly at the range...that will teach her! :ROFLMAO:
 
#5 · (Edited)
Now for a sniper story , we had a few USMC Viet Nam snipers at the Quantico Vintage Sniper Match a few years ago
and after we finished firing the 1000 yd course of fire (we shoot 300/600/800 and 1000 yds at our match). One of those old snipers came over to look at my PU sniper. He was shooting a M1941 USMC sniper rifle at the match with 8x Unertl optic. He told me he killed a Viet Cong who was carrying a PU across a rice paddy dike and when they policed up the PU, he said his impression was it crap and that is how he's always thought of PU sniper rifles. I offered for him to take a few shots with mine and he shot a 10 ring and two 9 ring hits at 1000 yds with it and my match 762x54R hand load. After which he said "I've been wrong, these things can shoot". I told him its a good thing he killed the guy carrying the PU and he agreed. The PU made a strong impression after those 3 shots fired. Live and Learn !! I might add , the old sniper picks up a strange weapon and nails a 10 and two 9's from 1000 yds, that is not luck, that is raw talent and Folks, we use the 600 yd bullseye NRA target for our 800 and 1000 yd shots ....so yeah a 10 and two 9's is really good shooting.
 
#7 ·
Nice shots Rob.... like you said, depends upon the shooter for the most part. My Tulsky PU is really a great rifle and I agree with Skip that the bad rap came from those cheap early imports that were pretty well used up.

From sales of late the PU and other Mosin snipers have def climbed up the ladder of desirability
 
#10 ·
I just picked up an all matching and original 1943 Izzy PU sniper in impeccable condition. The bore is immaculate. I did my research and waited for a long time to find a legit one and not a repro or fake. My wait finally paid off. Was able to take it out today for the first shots and to get it zeroed on paper. I must say I was originally one who thought the Mosin was a garbage rod. I had a buddy that had one and you had to beat the action open with a mallet. I have always much preferred Mausers. However, last year I bought a Finn M39 and it is a superb rifle. Always been into the combloc thing so figured I needed a PU to go with the SVDs and AKs. So glad I got this thing. Its hitting bullseye at 110 yards with no effort at all. I can't wait to see how it groups with some even better ammo!
 
#14 ·
Come Up's ....on the PU , that requires the scope to be properly zeroed using the adjustments of the mount to get your 100 yd zero. No clicks on the PU scope mind you so how you zero (correctly or incorrectly) will change "dope" . And of course all this goes out the window if you use various ammunition .
 
#15 ·

I wrote this up , its in the Sticky's that no one has a clue to use but here it is.
What you do with your sniper rifle is based on your objectives and range access limits.
Most have no choice but 100 yd range so they shoot their PU, twist turret knobs on scope till
on target and ZERO'd. That works but is incorrect if you are going to shoot longer distances
and if you don't zero correctly, you will run out of elevation. Zero like the Russians did
per that sticky and you'll have elevation beyond 1000 yds.

If you are motivated , read the sticky. If you just want to shoot 100 yds, twist away those turrets.

Both my PU are properly zero'd with the optimal ammuntion and go 100 to 1000 yds. We shoot out to 1000
yards at Quantico Vintage Sniper Match, we don't half hit it like CMP who holds a scoped surplus rifle match at
300 /600 yds and call it a "Game".
 
#16 ·

I wrote this up , its in the Sticky's that no one has a clue to use but here it is.
What you do with your sniper rifle is based on your objectives and range access limits.
Most have no choice but 100 yd range so they shoot their PU, twist turret knobs on scope till
on target and ZERO'd. That works but is incorrect if you are going to shoot longer distances
and if you don't zero correctly, you will run out of elevation. Zero like the Russians did
per that sticky and you'll have elevation beyond 1000 yds.

If you are motivated , read the sticky. If you just want to shoot 100 yds, twist away those turrets.

Both my PU are properly zero'd with the optimal ammuntion and go 100 to 1000 yds. We shoot out to 1000
yards at Quantico Vintage Sniper Match, we don't half hit it like CMP who holds a scoped surplus rifle match at
300 /600 yds and call it a "Game".
My comment was a senior brain fade, not sure what I was thinking (it was very late at night). My PU is properly zeroed so the question was a Homer Simpson"duh".
 
#17 · (Edited)
yeah, that's nothing new of Ukrainians "modernizing" M-N. quite a few years back there was an article with pictures that showed Ukrainian generals touring an arsenal where they showed pictures of M-N in different configuration they were modifying and sending out to troops at the front line

if anyone doesn't know the Ukrainian-Russian war has been going on for the last 8 years