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#1 ·
Hi, new here so apologies if this is in the wrong place or covered in another thread (I did a search but found nothing).
I've purchased a belt which was described to me as an original Russian one. I've seen some before but the rivets on the spacers all had holes through, this belt has brass tabs and the join at the top of the tabs that extend further are solid. It's identical to this listing: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/121206470457?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648 and this picture: http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/miolFVlaJ5YWjX1A3gGutbw.jpg
Other than a very smudged marking at each end the only stampings are for round numbers (up to 250 stamped at the ends).
Can anyone give me any info on these belts?
 
#2 ·
Post some pics of what you have and it will be easier to help. There are russian belts with solid rivets to the best of my knowledge. Things changed through the war to the point where they used the rivets with holes....not all are the same so post a pic of the tabs and the end tabs as well.

Frank
 
#4 ·
The belt is not Russian 1910 but is an interwar Maxim belt made for FN, and probably for 7.65. Most likely used by the Belgians. This info comes from Herb Woodend, former head of the Pattern Room, who saw some of my belts and I had the same question about where this type came from. He was not entirely sure but that was his view. The solid discs at the tips were not used much in Maxim belts generally. Francois LeGendre, a very knowledgeable belt, loader and ammo box collector and scholar might have more or even accurate info on these belts. I have not asked him about them.
Early Russian 1910 belts, up to the revolution, used brass, had holed rivets at the tips of the fingers and were marked with imperial markings and dates of mfg. After 1917, imperial marks we eliminated, and inspector and maker stamps and date were on the tabs, and a brass was ramped out in favor of steel. Construction remained the same as far as my experience with them, with holed rivets at the tips of the fingers, steel tabs and inspector stamps, dates and other unknown stamps such as single Cyrillic characters and single numbers.
Having sold quite a few of these belts, users complained that 7.92 would shake out of the belts on feed, so they are not as good as some others for that caliber. High quality belts, though.
 
#13 ·
>Your belt is for Bulgarian Maxim in 8x50R Mannlicher. This belt was manufactured in Germany at the end of the 1930's for Bulgarian export.<

Thanks JFL for the ID and for clearing up up the mystery. Woodend was curious, too, but made a guess about FN, but no info could be easily found. Shooters complained that the rounds vibrated out of the loops, so the 8X50R dimensions makes sense of that.
However, 54R should be workable in those belts so the Maxims and Vickers converted have another option for belts, which is nice.

Bob Naess