German firing proof eagles - variations

There are several observed variants, one being the oddly shaped "broken eagle" proof seen on SSZZA4 marked rifles:

And another variant that is significantly different from the others, specifically in wing design.

This is a stamp found on a Nazi reworked Polish Wz-29:

And this stamp, found on another Nazi reworked Vz-23, nearly identical in pattern to the eagle above:

*REVISED* The SSZZA4 stamp is attributed to an unidentified SS depot facility, the latter 2 eagles are stamps indicative of depot replacement barrels.

Per mrfarb below: "The latter depot firing proofs are attributed to German depots, most likely Magdeburg, but possibly others. Officially Ulm was the depot for barrel replacments on Polish rifles and Ingolstadt covered Czech rifles, at least according to June 1941 army Verordnungsblatt."

 

There are several observed variants, one being the oddly shaped "broken eagle" proof seen on SSZZA4 marked rifles:


The SSZZA4 stamp is attributed to the Steyr arsenal facility that produced these and "single-rune" marked bnz code SS contract rifles, has there been any location or arsenal associated with the alternative eagle style?

I'd like to find out if this eagle style is know to have been used during a specific time-frame or has been associated with a specific arsenal or depot facility.

Thanks in advance for any information.

I covered this very well in the last K98k book Vol.2 - this eagle is not associated with Steyr in any way, shape or form, but to an unidentified SS depot (but possibly Kurmark based on circumstantial and documentary evidence). SS contract and single rune rifles had nothing to do with this facility.

The latter depot firing proofs are attributed to German depots, most likely Magdeburg, but possibly others. Officially Ulm was the depot for barrel replacments on Czech rifles and Ingolstadt covered Polish rifles, at least according to June 1941 army Verordnungsblatt.

You must realize the "Beschußstempel" was an official marking for pressure test proofing, and was likely provided to the factories by the controlling authority of such things. Some factories do exhibit slightly different forms but generally most follow the official pattern. I used to know who supplied dies to factories based on markings on original marking dies used, but I've since forgotten that. I could probably look it up.

 

The information provided above is EXACTLY why I've remained a board member here for so many years. The wealth of information available is simply astounding.

 

No problem. I wish I could find the photos I have of the original stamps showing the makers mark, just too much stuff.

 

Here's one from my VZ-98/22 depot rebuild. Firing proof is only on the barrel.

 

Were there any firing proof eagles without the swastika?

 

Most pre-1938 rifles had Weimar-style Eagle firing proofs. In late 1937, there was a switch from the Weimar-style proofs to the Nazi Eagle over Swastika proofs.

 

Thanks for the answer.

 

The K98k I recently picked up is an example of the late 1937 change over. It is an S/42 as well.

Serial number is in the X block for that year of production.

 

Eagle over an "N".