Hi Guys
As you may know from another thread on here which I started, I had located a signed flag for sale on ebay which I had questioned because the ink was TOO BLACK/NEW looking for being 72 plus years old, black ink fades with age. The dealer is from Japan. His wording is very clever, he says " WWII ish " and 30-40 years old. The cotton flag itself could very well be vintage WWII production, but the KANJI is what made me question it. Nowhere in his description does he state that the kanji is "original" or WWII period nor does he translate it either, which is odd, because the seller is Japanese. The auction link will eventually become invalid after 60 days, but this seller's ebay name is ( oldtextile )
Auction LINK : http://www.ebay.com/itm/382000884133?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
NOW HERE IS THE IRONIC TWIST,
I DID buy this flag, but knowing in my mind that it was a FAKE. So why would I buy it ??? Because as many of you may well know, I recently made a reproduction 1945 Japanese pole bayonet and did a thread of it on here. I wanted a more realistic looking signed flag to display on it, instead of the one it currently has. This fake flag was just the ticket for me. I didn't want to display my well worn original on it, and somebody spent some quality time making this fake flag up to look as good as it does. The kanji is nicely formed, and not sloppy. To me, 80.00 isn't that bad for a realistic looking fake for my intended purpose stated above. At the end of the day, I bought something that I wanted, knowing that it is a replica.
I know that buying a FAKE might be hard for some to understand and I will probably catch some flak from forum members on here. But since I collect WWII German artifacts I can relate that it is well known. That there are some reproduction German items (fakes) that command good prices because their quality and limited production run. Now in the Japanese reproduction field, there are some NAKATA reproductions that are no longer being produced that tend to fetch high prices when offered up for sale, such as LMG pouches, and or knee mortar accessories. The idea of collectable FAKES has been discussed in the German Militaria forum on here from time to time and the consensus is that some replicas are collectable in their own right and that there is a collecting field for them.
One other reason for doing this thread is also to expose these flags coming out of Japan, not that this hasn't been already been done, it has been and somebody posted a link to another thread on this flag in the Wehrmacht Awards Forum. To be fair, this seller has been selling some genuine WWII production meatball flags of both cotton and silk production with paper and leather corners. But now he's selling fake kanji flags through clever wording. That is where I draw the line and I think it is wrong trying to pass off something as a legit period piece. Hopefully those looking to buy signed flags will read this and the other links and become better informed about what's hitting the market now.
LINK to 1st thread about this flag: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?726690-Good-or-bad-Hinomaru-Yosegaki
I do think that the seller needs to be exposed for what he is selling and using clever wording while absolving himself of any liabilities. Currently nobody has left him neutral or negative feedback for any replicated kanji signed flags. I am going to leave him neutral feedback simply to expose him for what he is doing. I am not going to leave negative feedback because I suspected it was a fake and bought it as such.
As you may know from another thread on here which I started, I had located a signed flag for sale on ebay which I had questioned because the ink was TOO BLACK/NEW looking for being 72 plus years old, black ink fades with age. The dealer is from Japan. His wording is very clever, he says " WWII ish " and 30-40 years old. The cotton flag itself could very well be vintage WWII production, but the KANJI is what made me question it. Nowhere in his description does he state that the kanji is "original" or WWII period nor does he translate it either, which is odd, because the seller is Japanese. The auction link will eventually become invalid after 60 days, but this seller's ebay name is ( oldtextile )

Auction LINK : http://www.ebay.com/itm/382000884133?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
NOW HERE IS THE IRONIC TWIST,
I DID buy this flag, but knowing in my mind that it was a FAKE. So why would I buy it ??? Because as many of you may well know, I recently made a reproduction 1945 Japanese pole bayonet and did a thread of it on here. I wanted a more realistic looking signed flag to display on it, instead of the one it currently has. This fake flag was just the ticket for me. I didn't want to display my well worn original on it, and somebody spent some quality time making this fake flag up to look as good as it does. The kanji is nicely formed, and not sloppy. To me, 80.00 isn't that bad for a realistic looking fake for my intended purpose stated above. At the end of the day, I bought something that I wanted, knowing that it is a replica.
I know that buying a FAKE might be hard for some to understand and I will probably catch some flak from forum members on here. But since I collect WWII German artifacts I can relate that it is well known. That there are some reproduction German items (fakes) that command good prices because their quality and limited production run. Now in the Japanese reproduction field, there are some NAKATA reproductions that are no longer being produced that tend to fetch high prices when offered up for sale, such as LMG pouches, and or knee mortar accessories. The idea of collectable FAKES has been discussed in the German Militaria forum on here from time to time and the consensus is that some replicas are collectable in their own right and that there is a collecting field for them.
One other reason for doing this thread is also to expose these flags coming out of Japan, not that this hasn't been already been done, it has been and somebody posted a link to another thread on this flag in the Wehrmacht Awards Forum. To be fair, this seller has been selling some genuine WWII production meatball flags of both cotton and silk production with paper and leather corners. But now he's selling fake kanji flags through clever wording. That is where I draw the line and I think it is wrong trying to pass off something as a legit period piece. Hopefully those looking to buy signed flags will read this and the other links and become better informed about what's hitting the market now.
LINK to 1st thread about this flag: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?726690-Good-or-bad-Hinomaru-Yosegaki
I do think that the seller needs to be exposed for what he is selling and using clever wording while absolving himself of any liabilities. Currently nobody has left him neutral or negative feedback for any replicated kanji signed flags. I am going to leave him neutral feedback simply to expose him for what he is doing. I am not going to leave negative feedback because I suspected it was a fake and bought it as such.