Its not a rifle so it would have to be an SBS (short barreled shotgun).

-Mike

 

Are SBS's covered under the new rule and tax forbearance. Everything I have looked at so far only mentions SBR.

Gary

 

They are not.

 

Can you put a brace on a shotgun?


Yes, yes you can. It retains the OAL of 26 inches and is perfectly legal to do so. Black Aces Tactical received an ATF letter in 2014 approving the use of a brace on a 'firearm' style weapon.

 

Much like the quote from the movie Battle of Britain "Hitler's Guarantees Guarantee Nothing". That 2014 ATF letter is an example of "The ATF's Guarantees Guarantee Nothing". They are simply a bad faith actor at this point.

Source

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/docs/undefined/factoringcriteriaforfirearmswithattachedstabilizingbracespdf/download

Starts on Page 23 of the "Final Ruling"
Also in 2014, an individual asked ATF to examine the SB15 “stabilizing brace” on a firearm commonly known as a “pistol grip firearm” with a smooth bore to verify that the firearm is not regulated under the NFA. On October 28, 2014, ATF concluded: (1) that a forward grip (an additional handgrip toward the front of the firearm in addition to the pistol grip) attached to a pistol redesigns the firearm to be fired with two hands and therefore the firearm is no longer a “handgun” or “pistol,” and (2) that it would be classified as “any other weapon” pursuant to 26 U.S.C. 5845(e) under the NFA if its overall length is less than 26 inches or if it is actually concealed on the person.27 The overall length of the submitted firearm was 27-1/4 inches and therefore ATF determined that, as submitted, the firearm was subject to regulation under the GCA but was not an NFA firearm, “provided the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace is used as originally designed and NOT used as a shoulder stock.”28 In essence, ATF’s original analysis focused on whether the inclusion of the forward grip subjected the firearm to the NFA, but ATF did not consider how the classification would be affected if a “pistol grip firearm” without a forward grip were to incorporate a “stabilizing brace.” Nevertheless, the addition of a “stabilizing brace” to these types of firearms does not assist with onehanded firing but rather redesigns the firearm by providing surface area for firing from the shoulder. Therefore, these types of firearms would fall within the purview of the NFA as short-barreled shotguns. 26 U.S.C. 5845(d). Because these types of firearms were never designed to be fired from one hand, this rule, as described in the NPRM, does not apply to firearms commonly referred to as pistol grip shotguns.29 86 FR at 30828–29. The 2014 classification described above and any classification that provides that a pistol grip shotgun is not an NFA firearm is no longer valid or authoritative as of [INSERT DATE OF PUBLICATION IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER], and the firearm should be resubmitted to FATD for evaluation

 

Heres my shockwave. It is legal to brace it and use a vertical pistol grip front and rear. At least where i live. Its not a pistol or a shotgun technically. But this may change with the stupid new law. Also without the brace it would not meet the length requirement to have a vertical pistol grip. If i had to take the brace and grips off it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world. At least it would be more compact. But the laws like the brace ban make it pretty evident that its not about preventing crime.

 

I don't think anything has come down the pipes about the Shockwave and Tac 14, but I'd be hesitant right now. The main gist of the brace/SBR rule, it appears, is that they've determined braces are stocks.

If you slap an actual stock on a Shockwave, you're breaking laws. So if the brace is a stock (for their purposes), it seems like you'd be in violation. And for now, no recourse in place.

I'd keep that birdseye grip on it.

 

I have a TAC-14 Arm Brace that came straight from the factory in this configuration. Still have the paperwork, etc, classifying it as a firearm and not subject to the NFA. The pull is 13” exactly, so by the ATF’s criteria, it doesn’t conform to standards of other weapons designed to be fired from the shoulder (Benelli M4 Tactical is 14 3/8”). If you shoulder it, the sight line is diagonal, not straight down the barrel. Most comfortable/ergonomic way to hold it is to curl the arm brace into the bicep & hold on tight. So, which of you reading this is a hotshot attorney ready to take on the cause???

 

I have a TAC-14 Arm Brace that came straight from the factory in this configuration. Still have the paperwork, etc, classifying it as a firearm and not subject to the NFA. The pull is 13” exactly, so by the ATF’s criteria, it doesn’t conform to standards of other weapons designed to be fired from the shoulder (Benelli M4 Tactical is 14 3/8”). If you shoulder it, the sight line is diagonal, not straight down the barrel. Most comfortable/ergonomic way to hold it is to curl the arm brace into the bicep & hold on tight. So, which of you reading this is a hotshot attorney ready to take on the cause???

Not me, not these days. But if I had kept my license when I retired, I still wouldn't take the case. If barrel is shorter than 18", I think it is "any other weapon" at this point and under the NFA. The 2014 ruling won't help. Or that would be my opinion IF I was still a lawyer.

 

There's one big problem with supreme court cases, standing: "Here, put your head in this noose so we can argue about whether we have the right to pull the lever on the trap door."