These are the perpendicular, grooved lines that I’m talking about on every other example of this Taliban net that I can find online.

 

The grooved grips were a tactile way to distinguish it from the P1907, whose grips were probably used to replace the originals on yours. A really cool example!

 

Were the grooved wooden grips done by Remington when it was manufactured, or done by Great Britain after it got there?
And if these grips were replacements to the grooved ones it had originally that would have been done in England or in Iraq.

 

The grooved grips were from the factory, I would bet the replacement was done in Iraq (as they did use a quantity of SMLEs).

 

The bayonet has British inspection and acceptance markings because it is actually a British Pattern 13 bayonet.
Remington made them on contract the same time they made the British P14 rifle.

 

There is something not quiet right with this bayonet. It appears to have a Pattern 1907 bayonet cross guard on a Pattern 1913 blade. Probably the reason for no grooves in grips. A rare one.
Cheers.

 

Good eye. It does indeed look like a P07 cross piece. Even though it’s a p13 blade.

 

They are the same blades (and scabbards) just different length cross guards to fit the P14 or SMLE rifles. That is the reason for the groves in the P13 grips. To quickly distinguish the difference with sight or feel if needed in a hurry.
One would wonder why that type of conversion with the numbers of 1907 and P14 bayonets made. He must have had one of each to start with or would have to make the shorter cross guard from scratch; which is quite possible over there I suppose.
Cheers.

 

This weapon was used as a sword/knife, not as a bayonet on the end of a rifle so maybe why it’s configured the way it is.

 

I believe this one was clearly altered so that it could fit on a SMLE rifle, maybe not by the bloke it was taken off.
There is no other reason it would need to be altered in the way it has been, otherwise they would not be achieving anything much different to what they already had to start with. Remember it is only the cross guard that has been changed, grips are just grips.
Cheers

 

I believe this one was clearly altered so that it could fit on a SMLE rifle, maybe not by the bloke it was taken off.
There is no other reason it would need to be altered in the way it has been, otherwise they would not be achieving anything much different to what they already had to start with. Remember it is only the cross guard that has been changed, grips are just grips.
Cheers

Along with the many AKs and other modern rifles we took from the enemy there were a some K98ks, Mosin M91s, and LeeEnfields taken as well so you may be right that it was meant to be used on a SMLE.

 

Hammer,
Well it is a nice bayonet and scabbard which I would be happy to have.
To yourself being there and knowing where you got it from just makes it something special for you to own.
You also knowing that it has actually been used in action against yourself just makes it a little more special and a great keepsake.
It is also the first P13/1907 bayonet that I have ever seen.
Cheers

 

Ditto on being the first one seen.

Makes me wonder how it was done. If the grip scales can be removed? Signs of brazing on both the crosspiece and pommel???

 

I tried to take the two screws off the handles but the thread ends are tamped down to where they won’t back out of the nut.
Here’s some close-up pictures and hopefully it’ll help to determine if it was braised or some such process.

 

It’s pretty clean.

 

Does the Cross Guard piece look like the quality and finish of other Remington made cross guards? Its size & shape are clean and it fits tightly together with no wiggle at all.

And any thoughts on what the lighter elongated “puddle” look is on the top of the cross guard? It almost looks like we’re something previously had covered that portion or maybe it’s where the cross guard rubbed on the metal top portion of the scabbard?

 

There is over locking lug on pommel letter and 07 in arabic digits, maybe its the conversion there done in Iraq, evidently Iraq got a large bunch of P1907 post WW1, same as there is other local stamps under locking lug, maybe its a explanation why is the conversion done from P13 to P07.

 

I was an advisor with the Iraqi Army in 2006, just west of Habbaniyah. We found quite a few P14s, a few SMLEs, and even a shot out K98 (iirc it was a DOT 43).
Who were you with in fallujah. Most of my advisor team was from 3/5, also have buddies from 1/3 and 3/4.

Semper Fi, retired as a Gunny in 2013

 

Yes, is clearly an odd Pattern 13 / 07 hybrid bayonet that as far as I’ve heard so far, nobody has seen before