[jleiper]

What is the source of your numbers? I find some significant differences with production years and numbers.
Joe

 

[jleiper]

I published the available production numbers by year about a year ago, but I cannot find the post.

First, Belgians were not produced in 1895, they were still developing tooling. Contract delivery started in 1896 with the bulk of the contract being delivered in 1898. Production was not transfered to Tula, it was developed there and production started in 1898 - not 1899 as is commonly written. Production continued in Leige into the early 1900s.
It goes on, you have many errors in this. Unless you can document numbers and production years, be careful or you will be starting new internet myths! The places you got your information from were not careful!
Joe

 

[jleiper]

I am curious about 1908... I have 1908 single action all matching not import http://news.webshots.com/photo/1343182506060623851VFSSCS
Is it really only 1000 was made ???

More like 25000 plus. I have an observed serial of 25371.
Joe

 

[jleiper]

Rather than trying to update this I will just post a link to the same information http://www.RussianRevolvers.com/nagant_production.html

Joe


Be careful! Multiple sources are where somebody guesses and everyboy copies it. Without sources your information is useless. Here is my current list. If anybody has a revolver with a matching sideplate and a higher number, I'd LOVE to see them.
Joe

 

[jleiper]

Do the sideplates match? - they are refurbs
Joe

 

[jleiper]

Trigger guards should not be numbered after mid 1916 and I will bet that the cylinders don't have OTK marks, i.e. they are refurb replacements and force matched. I can see that the barrel and front sight on the 1917 are replacements, the 1922 has a hammer marked barrel but the front sight has been replaced. Are the side plate serial numbers in the same face as the serial numbers on the frame? Sorry, I have to ask as I have seen a lot of information put out that was simply in error because the owner didn't know the difference.

Here is the problem with refurbs, the average collector has no idea what original parts should look like and they assume that all of the parts are original and that the markings are original as well. Often they aren't.
Joe

 

[jleiper]

Thanks! Can you post pictures of both sides?
Joe

 

[jleiper]

Thanks, every number helps. Even some of the Soviet published numbers are suspect - especially 1935!
Joe

 

[jleiper]

The 42246 is a highest number seen for 1930 - Thanks! I assume the side plate matches? Nice lanyard on the 1930 as well.
Joe

 

[jleiper]

Thanks on the sideplate confirmation. The lanyard is no later than the early 1920s and they are very hard to find!
Joe

 

[jleiper]

Thanks! I'll fix it on the next update.
Joe

 

[jleiper]

First, 1943s were made at Izhevsk with the Tula star and arrow and then 3 other different marks. Real Tula produced revolvers were made with several different marks (at least three different marks). Pictures would help! If the arsenal mark on the sideplate has "1943г" it is an Izhevsk and if it is just "1943" it is really a Tula. If it is a real 1943 Tula, that's what I would go with.
Check out http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?178984-Nagant-side-plate-markings-1941-to-1945

Second, on refurbs the cylinders are commonly replaced. If there is no arsenal (OTK) acceptance mark on the cylinder face, it has been replaced. Try to get the most original revolver that you can.

Joe

 

[jleiper]

Joe, the 1943 I asked about has the Tula star, with a hammer. I looked at the link and verified. I will get it next week, I think there is a survey, I will fill it out. The cylinder does have the same number as the revolver side plate, the prefix at both locations looks like an A. Was it common for them to stamp prefixes on replaced cylinders? When I get it, I will check for the acceptance mark on the cylinder face. It is clearly a refurbished piece, the side plate is marked with the square symbol. Thanks. coverga

They definitely put the prefix on replacement cylinders. However, they didn't put in the OTK marks - in this case a star. The face of the numbers is also larger on the replacement cylinders.
Joe