Hmm... There are hundreds of threads on M17 vs. the incorrect P17, Gew 88 vs. Mauser 88, also incorrect, not to mention that the Mle 1892 revolver ain't no Lebel.
P’17 could be correct, depends on the context.
I've heard from several sources that Mauser never used the name C96, and Bolo is from the same place with the "Broomhandle" and "Black Widow" albeit born a tad earlier...
OK, start by listing the names of all designers who participated in the creation of the three-line rifle. You may want to use this source, lots of information on the subject. The author calls it "Mosin's rifle", but diligently describes who did what.
Nope, that’s what everybody in Russia calls it - трехлинейка, or треха = three-line rifle.
What does calling C96 Mauser a "Broomhandle" make you sound like, just a doofus without the hipster part? You can call it a Mosin-Nagant all day long, but it doesn't change the fact that it is incorrect name for this rifle and on top of that is not used by just about anyone anywhere and especially the Country where this dang thing originally came from. I listen to the audio books a lot, especially on a long road trips, so the wife and I just got done with one called "The Diamond Eye" by Kate Quinn. The author, an American woman, mind you, calls it a "3-line rifle" often enough and doesn't sound like a doofus to me...
I never liked broomhandle as a moniker either, did you hear me making the argument for it? Obviously this is another case of what I was saying being the case, everyone immediately knows what you are referring to when you say Mauser pistol, as Paul Mauser was involved in its design. The term "3 line rifle" is just a fancy way of saying .30 cal, aka 3/10ths of an inch. Does that make the SVT, SKS, AK, SVD, ect. also 3 line rifles? How about the '03 Springfield, M1 Garand, and M14? Should those also be called 3 line rifles? It's just a stupid useless term, I don't really give a damn what it's called in Russia to be honest. An M91 from 1892 and an M44 from 1948 are 2 significantly different weapons. To simply use only the the term "3 line rifle" with no further descriptors like you guys were saying earlier in this thread doesn't effectively convey what exactly it is you are trying to talk about. Furthermore, the purpose of language is to communicate effectively. In America, when you say "Mosin", pretty much everyone in real life that knows about guns knows what you are talking about. When you say "3 line rifle", almost no one knows what the hell you are talking about, and after you're done explaining it to them you come off as a conceited snob, never mind whether or not it is technically correct. So I guess there is indeed a reason that this is not the "The Collector's Forum - 3 Line Rifle HQ" sub forum, lol.
