[Captain John Jarrett]

Joel & Revelation1911-

I said I would post photos as soon as possible, here they are. Please let me know what you think!


All,

Came in the mail today, it is a RIC No.1 New Model .476 calibre. If you have the recently released book - Webley Solid Frame Revolvers: Models RIC, MP, & No.5 by Joel Black, Joseph L. Davis, & Roger G. Michaud this revolver appears on page 67. If you are not fortunate enough to own this fine book I have copied the page and attached it to this post, the authors decription of the revolver says it all. Well except for the cylinder lockup & bore condition, both of which are very nice indeed.

Regards, John.

 

[signalman]

Congratulations on a fine revolver.

I just picked up a small collection for resale, and it had a cased Nickel finish RIC No. 1 New Model .476. It is an Army and Navy C.S.L. revolver. Both the case, and Revolver are marked for the Army and Navy Co-op.

 

[revelation1911]

Looks good . Judging by distance I would say it's still original .
I don't think six rounds wil go all the way around .

 

[Captain John Jarrett]

This is the cylinder loaded with 6 rounds of .45 Schofield, cycles with no problems, and overall length is good as well.

 

[revelation1911]

This is the cylinder loaded with 6 rounds of .45 Schofield, cycles with no problems, and overall length is good as well.

You wouldn't happen to have a 45 colt round to put beside the 45 schofield round ? I am wondering the rim thickness ?
I could look it up if I had a reloading manual .

 

[Captain John Jarrett]

No, I sure don't. But as you can see by these new pics. the rim diameter of the Schofield round is only marginally larger than the .455 & .450, would think they would work for your Webley's as well.

 

[Wolfgang Mountain Man]

Real nice pistol.

 

[revelation1911]

No, I sure don't. But as you can see by these new pics. the rim diameter of the Schofield round is only marginally larger than the .455 & .450, would think they would work for your Webley's as well.

The schofield rounds rim looks thinner than the long colt one and slightly thicker than the webley one ?

 

[Captain John Jarrett]

Just to clarify, the picture is of (from left to right): .45 Schofield, .455 Webley(Fiocchi loading), & .450 Webley handload, put together by the gent I bought my Webley Metropolitan Police from. Were you thinking that the Schofield was the Long Colt round? My apologies for not clarifying the picture if you were!

 

[revelation1911]

Just to clarify, the picture is of (from left to right): .45 Schofield, .455 Webley(Fiocchi loading), & .450 Webley handload, put together by the gent I bought my Webley Metropolitan Police from. Were you thinking that the Schofield was the Long Colt round? My apologies for not clarifying the picture if you were!

Thats what I was thinking . I still don't have a M&P yet . I got a RIC in 442 .

 

[signalman]

This is my RIC New Model No. 1 in .476 - Cased

 

[Captain John Jarrett]

Oh, that is very, very nice!! If you ever want to pass it along I claim first dibs!

Is that a Nitro Proof marking on the barrel?

 

[ward miller]

Isn't it curious that Serviceman's antique has the post-WW2 export proof on the left side and the nitro proofs. This is over-regulation, eh what?

 

[joel_black@netzero.com]

Ward,
Howard's RIC is a very late example. it was made, at the same time as the last 200 RIC/83s were also nitro proofed.

 

[signalman]

Hello, Yes John, I am selling it.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthr...owthread.php?234617-WTS-Cased-RIC-WEBLEY-.476-New-Model-1&p=1857368#post1857368

 

[PJGP]

Ward,
Howard's RIC is a very late example. it was made, at the same time as the last 200 RIC/83s were also nitro proofed.

Are you sure Joel? Signalman's RIC has pre-1905 B'Ham proof marks on the cylinder, and is in calibre .476 which was obsolete by around 1900. The BP, BV, NP marks are post 1905 and are surely a re-proof; after 1921 (but before 1955) judging by the stamp on the LHS behind the serial number. I cannot decode the stamp - it is out of focus - what is the letter Signalman?

Peter

 

[signalman]

Crossed swords, and it looks like "D" "5" "O", although my eyes are not as good as they used to be. ( Could possibly be B or 6 and C, but I do not think so ).

 

[PJGP]

Crossed swords, and it looks like "D" "5" "O", although my eyes are not as good as they used to be. ( Could possibly be B or 6 and C, but I do not think so ).

B and C are most likley. There should be a B (B'Ham), a number (inspector) and a letter for the year. The system on your gun was introduced in 1950 (A) and the proof marks were changed in 1955 (F), so C (1952) is most likely.

Peter

 

[signalman]

Thanks, so it was resent through a proof house to make sure it was safe for " Modern " ammo in 1952, interesting. When do you think it was manufactured, with the pre- '05 proofs on the Cylinder.

 

[joel_black@netzero.com]

When I went though my A&N CSL records I couldn't find it. There was a page from 1900 that had RICs with serial numbers in both the 70,000 and high 90,000 range. The was a 1906 page that had some 94-96000 RICs, but not yours Howard. I stupidly assumed it must a have languished on a shelf as the RIC/83 frames had and was sold late. Peter of course is correct, but in my defense Webley was still selling very obsolete .442s well into the 20th century.