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Liliput 1927- Smallest Pistol of Them All

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#1 ·
Is there any fellow Liliput owners out there? Maybe the smallest pistol ever made. For comparison, you can see it with it's fellow countryman Glock 23, and next to a baby Browning.

From Wikipedia:

The 4.25 mm Liliput pistol is one of the smallest semiautomatic handguns ever made (the Kolibri is generally considered the smallest). Hence its name, derived from the fictional island of Lilliput, inhabited by tiny people.
The Liliput was manufactured by Waffenfabrik August Menz in Suhl, Germany from approximately 1920 to 1927. Menz also manufactured a similar .25 ACP pistol introduced in 1925 as the Model 1, and a .32 ACP pistol sold as the Beholla Pistol. Overall length of the Liliput was 4.25 inches and barrel length was 1​[SUP]3[/SUP]⁄[SUB]4[/SUB] inches.
Because the pistol uses a 4.25 mm (.167 in) cartridge (which became known as the 4.25mm Liliput and which is considered obsolete), the Liliput is one of the few pistols that can be owned in the United Kingdom without a license.[SUP][1][/SUP]
The Liliput features in a number of novels by Alistair MacLean, though he incorrectly calls it the "Luger Liliput" and refers to its calibre as ".21"

Any others out there, let's take a look.

Dave


 

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Cute little thing!
 
#6 ·
Very cool, thanks for sharing.

Dave
 
#15 ·
A Lilliput was mentioned in the novel, Where Eagles Dare.

Von Brauchitsch, his gun-hand resting helplessly on his thigh, turned slowly round and looked over his shoulder. There was indeed a gun pointing at the middle of his back, a Lilliput .21 automatic, and the hand that held it was disconcertingly steady, the dark eyes cool and very watchful. Apart from the small trickle of blood from her cut lip and rather dishevelled hair, Mary looked singularly little the worse for wear.
 
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And more vest pockets View attachment 3659497 View attachment 3659499 View attachment 3659501 View attachment 3659503 View attachment 3659505 View attachment 3659507 View attachment 3659509 View attachment 3659511

Some with some history.....Italian vest pocket captured by a GI with date and his serial #. WWI 1909 Austrian Steyr with the Austrian soldiers name and date with Belgium...... last, Belgium Melior with capture papers.
Good stuff, thanks for sharing.


Dave
 
#32 ·
A long, LONG time ago I bought a Lilliput! IIRC it was £50.00 including an opened partial box of ammo & a (believe it or not) crotch holster.
I took it to the range, got a point & walked to the bench. When the range was open to fire I unzipped, drew it & fired it into the 25yd target.
The entire firing line was just staring at me slack jawed!

I eventually sold it to another member once I found out the price of the odd, unique ammo. He got it for his daughter because it fit her tiny hands pefectly!
 
#33 ·
Interesting comment about why they carried these little pistols. They were never issued to combat soldiers but high ranking officers in the German army (WWI and seen in pictures) carried these little pistols with holsters.....A lot lighter than a Luger or other pistols used. The number 7 Walther (25 cal.) pistol was favored by the German WWI officers. A smaller version of the Walther 4 pistol.The famous German tank commander was found with a Walther 7 when they reburied his remains. I think these vest pockets were popular in Germany and were carried without any particular reason?
Joe
 
#40 ·
My small pistol. Freckling, mitigated some by Kroil and judicious application of 0000 steel wool. 100 years old, not shot a whole lot, like most .25s, I suspect. People knock the .25 ACP all the time, but hey, James Bond dusted quite a few BGs with his Beretta 418, even stopped a train! :)
I love this old Colts, I need to pick up one the next chance I get.

Dave
 
#45 ·
OK, not the smallest, certainly not the oldest, really doesn't belong with all these beautiful old classics: but it's the only thing I've got to be able to 'play' in this thread. :laugh:

Moreover, it REALLY is tiny and, being a 9mm (kurz), probably wins the caliber "mine's bigger than your's" contest.

My Seecamp. Caliber: 9mm kurz (.380 acp) Capacity: 7 rounds (6 in mag + 1 in chamber)

4 1/4" long X 3 1/4" high X .725" wide (slide) (0.90" grips)

Solid stainless steel and put together like a fine swiss watch. (And yes, it's serial number is MADE4LNF (my initials). :)



Here, for size comparsion, next to my little LCP.