Same around here, don’t see them often. I have seen them in the $600-1200 range. I bought one here in Al. Just a couple of months ago. BCD 43, great bore, good looking rifle for $300 off Armslist.
I feel very lucky

 

Without photos it's pretty hard to say, but as you've seen, excellent condition ones can easily push into the $1000 range.

 

No mention of the asking price, & it's a rustbucket if one can't clearly read the receiver ring markings.
Regional variations apply, but $1200 is just wild. Suggest ignoring questionable auctions (not an honest barometer).
It looks "very clean" because of the new stock (hint: $100 @ Numrich).
Examine the receiver @ woodline for pits - should not take much effort.

 

I've not had an Israeli k98 in many moons & they're rare as hens teeth around here. So I jumped at one a couple days ago. Well, layaway. My wifes recent rifle purchases have killed the gun fund.

Details on this one. Shop wouldn't let me take any pictures unfortunately.

DOU or DOT 43 receiver. Israeli 7.62 conversion. Beechwood fingergroove. Israeli sling. Excellent bore. Milled trigger guard. German bayonet. Grenade adapter. Butt ton of stripper clips. Not matching of course. Doesn't have the dug out of Guatemala look to it, very clean overall.

The couple clean examples that have sold on the auction sites are north of $1200. So what would be a realistic price from my description. Always willing to haggle with the gun shop.

Thank you

Bought one last year for $650, rebuilt as 7.62 and almost new.

 

I just bought one for $50, I didnt even know what I had until I did some research on it, its in really nice shape as far as I can tell, I took it apart and cleaned it, did a firing pin strike test on a cartridge with primer only. Waiting to shoot it until I can fire it remotely in case it blows up, I am stoked to know how valuable it might be.

 

Well for value if in original condition and has not been messed with, P. Peterson in the 2020 new 9th edition of The standard catalog of Military Firearms has the following.
German receiver converted to .308 marked 7.62 on receiver over german markings Exc 500, VG 375, G 300, Parts/Fair 150. Now the Fond du Lac, Wi, largest GS in WI, yesterday had a real nice one that I missed at $625. I mean it was great condition. I just went up the wrong isle 😕
Now a Czech post war made .308 Nato Israel mauser is listed at EXC 600, VG 525, G 400 and parts/Fair 250. There were two just really beat ones at $300. CAI Guatemala junk. No takers due to sewer pipe bores and poor stocks. Dogs that should have been 150 for the bolt and screws.😒 See page 247.
I would value an original German Mauser with receiver markings intact, restamped 7.62, as more valued than a post war Czech rifle. I would have been happy to pay $650. It was a better example, the best I have seen in a long time-- but fate had it that it was not to be. Most have the German markings scrubbed and new Israeli receiver markings applied and that is more like the book value. A K98k with Intact German receiver markings are always better than the scrubbed version no matter what condition the barrel is!
As for price there are so many factors- state laws and regional rarity are big factors, then you look at the rifle type: See my SRF post:

Surplus Rifle Forum - www.surplusrifleforum.org - Information

Surplus Rifle Forum - www.surplusrifleforum.org - Information

On that example you saw the stock was an Israeli replacement not a correct original German stock and that really hurts the value more toward what is mentioned in the book. Figure $250-350 to find a German stock, then maybe sell of the Beech stock to recoup about half value. Now an Israeli marked K98k bayonet is nice, really nice; and an Israeli grenade adaptor is another plus-- figure the two are worth about $160/200??? The israeli marked leather sling is also a plus. So if you could live with a odd ball stock, I'd say $600 might be fair if the bayonet was nice in a scabbard and the launcher was in its web case?? That's about $400 for the rifle, then you find a replacement German stock. Others may think I am nuts, they would rather have an intact RC or bring back K98k. Most do not favor the NATO round.

Best is an Israeli marked German 8mm K98k. NO CONVERSION. That is big bucks. You need more details, a true German WW II grenade launcher is also big bucks. Are the extras German marked or Israeli marked. It's better if the bayonet is Israeli marked and way better if it is a non Israeli grenade launcher. A true K98k marked German sling is worth more that an Israeli marked sling. So check out the markings on the extras. The striper clips are just garbage to throw out. Look at some of the Empire more current sales in that link- it provides a sold price , and photo, as well as the year of the sale. that can get you into hand grenade range for value. I guess how bad do you want one, how many do you see at gun shows in your area, and how much cash do you want to play with. It is always better to see a rifle in person rather than an on-line auction with fees, shipping, and FFL transfer fees. All factors to consider.
If you got a job and make 40-60 bucks an hour, you want it, then walk in with a hand full of $50 bills and deal. Cash talks, times are hard. I assume the extras are all Israeli marked. So maybe start at 500 and go up, but I would figure you need a replacement German K98k stock -$350 from what you consider a value is. Use it as a bargaining chip. It just depends how hungry the shop is for cash, and how fast surplus junk sells in your area??????
Be sure the receiver codes are clear and crisp, an example worth a restoration to find a correct German stock. You might want to check headspace,if going above $600.

 

Some of my dogs can be seen in this write up from long ago on SRF:
page 2 & 3 http://www.surplusrifleforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1911&start=15

 

Thank you fou the info folks. Very very helpful. I'll post pictures of it in a week or two once I've got it in hand.

 

Not going to elaborate upon the sticker price?

For ref, an informative native 2011 thread:

Value of Israeli Mausers

I find myself wanting to convert part of my gun collection into more modern firearms for practical purposes. But I've been away from the collecting world for a couple of years and feel I've lost contact with real values for some of the guns I have. Two in particular are Israeli Mausers, one a...

www.gunboards.com

 

They'd to get a 1k out of it. I'd like to haggle with them on it. Last time I bought one, they were still a $150 rifle. 15 years or so ago. Given that I've been out of mauser collecting & the state of the firearms market in general lately, I'm clueless. Wish they'd have let me take pictures.

I've been focusing on black powder lately. Sharps and trapdoors.

 

$1000 is nuts, especially with the stock. Even $600 is crazy to me unless its like brand new. Maybe a $1000 if it was all German and in 8mm with an Israeli star on it. And that would be beyond my wallet. What crazy city is that ?

 

I paid $650 for a like new unissued 7.62 conversion with the Czech lion on the receiver and a 1970s Israeli inventory decal on the stock about 18 months ago. Unfired with only slight handling marks on the bolt. It came with a new Israeli sling. Did I pay too much? I saw a couple of like new ones sell late last year in the $1,000 to $1,250 range that were 1 bidder sales. One had the IDF crest.
Dan

 

Why I'm asking questions. So I can haggle with them. Figured it was probably high. They'll come down some or they can keep it.

 

"I paid $650 for a like new unissued 7.62 conversion with the Czech lion on the receiver and a 1970s Israeli inventory decal on the stock about 18 months ago. Unfired with only slight handling marks on the bolt. It came with a new Israeli sling. Did I pay too much?" scandiknivars's
Never did figure how to do a block quote on this forum, SRF is easy.

Scandiknivars that is the best of the best- You got a deal. I am cheep and would have loved to find such a specimen for that price. Czech lion is way too cool, with yellow sticker... Yahoo

A hard find in any condition, and to be unissued, too good to shoot, a Safe Queen.
Start a new post, I'd love to see some pictures of the crest, action, bolt markings, barrel markings, decal, and stock condition.

 

"I paid $650 for a like new unissued 7.62 conversion with the Czech lion on the receiver and a 1970s Israeli inventory decal on the stock about 18 months ago. Unfired with only slight handling marks on the bolt. It came with a new Israeli sling. Did I pay too much?" scandiknivars's
Never did figure how to do a block quote on this forum, SRF is easy.

Scandiknivars that is the best of the best- You got a deal. I am cheep and would have loved to find such a specimen for that price. Czech lion is way too cool, with yellow sticker... Yahoo

A hard find in any condition, and to be unissued, too good to shoot, a Safe Queen.
Start a new post, I'd love to see some pictures of the crest, action, bolt markings, barrel markings, decal, and stock condition.

I've tried taking pictures but it's overcast and gloomy here. Let me see what I can dig up from the sale. I'll post them over on the Military Mauser forum when I can.
Dan

 

"Best is an Israeli marked German 8mm K98k. NO CONVERSION. That is big bucks. "

I have one of these. How big a bucks are you talking about?

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When I see a step milled into the front of the receiver. I can't help but think someone milled off the 7.62 and put an 8mm barrel on it. Then they refinished the whole thing to look like new. All of the various Israeli inspection marks that you see on the receiver are what would have been applied to it after the conversion to 7.62 NATO.
My two cents worth.
Dan

 

Hmm I'm in Australia and so is the rifle - which has been here for decades.
It would make little sense for someone to turn a 7.62 Israeli Mauser back to 8mm as 7.62 IM are more highly prized here. The number of people in Australia skilled enough to do such fakery can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and none would do this pointless exercise. As for it's condition, it's not extraordinary as I've seen some nicer 7.62 IMs sold here recently. Also original NAZI 8mm Mausers as well, most new, unissued in grease.

 

That is not in a laminated German stock, Was that stock an Israeli refinished hardwood beech stock? There is no way to remove the deep burned in 7.62 on wood so it is an odd stock??? I do not see the left side markings. Is that a dot 1945? Czech marked ? Any dirty birds or Nazi markings on the barrel? Something is a miss. The steped upper edge of the receiver is odd. I agree a put together. 7.62 on the receiver was removed.

 

Partially correct - Florey55's stock is postwar, & action is German-proofed. "7.62" was never applied to either component of this export model. Hint: 8mm models were sold to other entities besides Israel. It is not postwar Czech-proofed: this action was issued.
There's nothing unusual about the following at all: "the steped (sic) upper edge of the receiver is odd".

Numrich, et al have sold thousands of these new, generic unmarked stocks since the late '70s.

 

Excellent correction. Every time you add something we learn more. I wish you could do a detailed write up of the Czech mausers and the vz98N. Thanks

 

Wish that I had some spare time for a freelance project such as what's suggested.
But, be advised that there's at least 1 good thread covering these in the native archives.

 

Florey55
I've been collecting for over 50 years and early on learned much of what I know from older collectors. They are all gone now. One of the things pounded into my thick skull early on is "If it don't look right it probably ain't". I got my Czech lion crested Israeli out and took a closer look at it. I'm going to do a 180 degree turn here after looking at mine and comparing it to yours. Yours is a post-war Czech without the crest so I'm seeing a similar origin for both. The Israeli inspection marks near the serial number are the same. In addition mine was also milled in the same area as yours just not near as deep. Probably to cut through the hard surface.The color of the parkerizing is the same. The finish of the wood is the same, neither have been sanded so I'm speculating new stocks for both from the same source. We have always thought that all the conversions were done in Israel but that may not be the case. Looking at the milled area near the serial number on mine I see a small Czech lion inspection mark. I checked my picture files and 2 of the other three have the same mark in the same place.That would have disappeared during the milling process. So I wonder, did the Czechs convert their rifles to 7.62 before shipping them to Israeli and is yours one that the sale was canceled on and then re-converted to 8mm? The milled area on yours is much deeper than on mine and a reconversion would account for that. However with the Israeli inspection marks that would mean that there were Israeli inspectors in Czechoslovakia during the conversion process. Is that possible?

Whew, your rifle raises more questions than answers and opens up a whole new train of thought on Israeli Mausers.
Dan

 

What a fantastic Lion crested rifle.

 

A head scratcher for sure.

 

Yep.
'Tis what keeps this hobby interesting.

 

I think I'll pick out one of my favorite pipes, load it with a nice fragrant tobbaco, grap a fresh cup of Columbian blend coffee and go out on the balcony, sit in my rocker and think about all of this.
Be Well All
Dan

 

FWIW - mine is similar to scandikinars, but with a D burnt one side of the butt and 7.62 on the other.
The 7.62 mark on the receiver appears to be a later addition.