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Be glad that did slip your mind. So where do we start..?

1. Lithgow stamp is upside down. (see correction to this point below)
2. There would not be a Royal ER Cypher on an Aus produced bayonet. Australia became it's own country in 1901, and was no longer a colony under the crown.
3. marked 7 of '19 (July 1919). The hooks were ordered removed in late 1913. Why would a post-WW1 bayonet be produced with an obsolete component?
4. Edward the 7th (the ER cypher) ruled from 1901 to 1910. No way would a 1919 bayonet be marked to a Royal who was no longer reigning (or alive-Edward VII died in 1910).

 

SMLE Addict, plus the font and placement looked absurd. And the "crest" looks hand-punched.

 

I recognize the seller, he occasionally sells the fake crap mixed in with mostly original stuff he sells.

I always recognize his auctions because of the black rubber gloves.

Gun Broker seller Wells Plumber also copies other sellers photos for the items he buys from them......then turns around the relists said item for sale with same photos...... seen him do it lots Sreisel's stuff.

 

Another similar one sold in the UK a couple ofweeks ago at auction, the hammer price was GBP580. At least the Lithgow stamp wasn't upside down......

 

Ouch! 580 GBP is no small amount. 580 Pounds is 782 USD, or 1180 Aus dollars.

My condolences to that winning bidder!

 

Plus these charges...
Buyers Premium is 26.5% (+vat) with a minimum Lot Charge £6 (+vat)
Saleroom.com bidders will pay a 5% (+VAT) internet surcharge

I had sent them an e-mail telling them it was a fake but got no reply.....

 

My real Pattern 1907 bayonet. Actually have two.

 

Ok all; a correction and an apology for mis-information regarding my fist post. Something was bugging me about the faked "LITHGOW" markings, so I pulled my two early Lithgow P1907 bayonets out of the gun-safe. One, a 1913 with it's quillion intact, and a 1919 made bayonet. I was wrong; the Lithgow stamp in bones92 initial post is indeed correct (but as he mentioned, font, stampings are very obviously poor copies). The Lithgow stamp pictured in Doogal's post is upside down. My post regarding ER and Edwards the 7th's reign are correct

Attached is a pic of my 1913 and the 1919. Odd how the year/manufacture placement changed during those years.

Again, sorry for the mis-information

 

The Lithgow stamp pictured in Doogal's post is upside down

Then, OBVIOUSLY, it is all original, and, as it was made in a factory on the bottom of the world is only to be expected.

 

I think that every one is missing the point. The bayonet is an ultra rare Australian pattern 1903 and obliviously that pattern had the Lithgow reversed!

 

I'll go with that

 

That's right Alan, obliviously made for the northern hemisphere market and as we are down under we made it easier for you to read.

 

Yes, it was made in the WOGHTIL factory in Tasmania. They're even further Down Under.

 

Hello Damien,

As per your request, attached pics of the V number on the 1913 Hooked Q bayonet. It also wears an early Lithgow scabbard, and the chape is marked to the 4th military district.

The 1919 bayonet is marked to the 3rd military district, but no chape markings. Early scabbard as well.

As I was digging these out of the gunsafe a few minutes ago, I found I had another early Lithgow bayonet, a 1918. Hate to admit getting old, but I completely forgot I had a third early Lithgow bayonet. It is a 1918 dated blade, and has no MD markings anywhere. Something else I noticed; none of these bayonets are drilled through for the oil hole on the pommel. Lastly, all three of these bayonets are wearing identical leather frogs. They are all stamped "John Boyle & Co" followed by a date. A quick internet search lists a John Boyle & Co leather works out of New York. Do you happen to know if Boyle made these on contract for Australia? Never really thought much about it until this evening.

I got all three of these in the late 1990's, from a collector who was liquidating his collection. The non-hooked bayonets were reasonably priced (around $100 each). I paid up for the Hooked-Q, forking over $400. Remember, this was 1998, and people told me I was a nit-wit for spending that much a bayonet!

 

Fantastic, thankyou!