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Geco 1919

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#1 ·
Hello all,

I have have a quick question. I recently acquired 5 old guns from a friend. Great deal). It’s taken several days to clean all the rust off them... they were in horrible condition when I first saw them that I couldn’t make out any stampings on the barrel or receivers. After several man hours of cleaning with CLP and steel wool, they really turned out pretty nice.

What did I get?
1) Geco “Carabiner’ model 1919- missing butt plate, trigger guard, takedown screw, and extractor.
2) Remington model 341 with vintage weaver scope (Complete and nicest of the 5)
3) Stevens model 94... single shot 16ga shotgun (All complete and turned out very nice)
4) Stevens model 44... single shot .32 Long/ rolling block, lever action (Nice, old school rifle)
5) Zulu shotgun... I think this was an old French black powder musket converted to a snider breech loading system.. then lastly, converted to a shotgun (This was the worst of the lot... wall hanger)

Now for the quick question!

I bought an extractor for the Geco. The extractor is for a model 25... I decided to purchase it and see if I could get it to fit the 1919 (They looked very similar). The model 25 extractor is a tad bit bigger than the 1919. After a bit of fabrications, I got it to fit pretty good in its recessed area. Every thing fits and appears to function as it should. The .22 round fits and extracts as it should. A $25.00 extractor was a good investment (I think). Does anybody know what the difference is between the model 1919 and the model 25? I believe they’re both .22’s... I just wonder why the difference in the European extractor?

Ive added a few photos of the newly acquired rifles and a pic of the altered extractor.
 

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#2 ·
I guess the Geco 1919s were the low-end of the market when they came out.

I had a Winchester 1890 where some Depression-era Gunsmith grafted on a Geco 1919 barrel and soldered it on. Was kinda interested (its since been restored). Still have the pics someplace.
 
#3 ·
Yes, I believe you’re correct. I don’t think the model 1919 is high on any collectors list, however, it really is an interesting little thing. It gives me something to do by putting this firearm back to its original state. I paid only $150.00 for all 5 rifles so I don’t feel bad about putting a few bucks into it.
 
#4 ·
GECO was the retailer (short for founders name Gustav Genschow)
Mostly a retailer of sporting goods, firearms and ammo but did take over the Deutsche Werke firearms factory in the early to mid 1920's and under that arrangement did make .22rf rifles.
The company is still around to this day.

Those GECO 1919 models can be of several makers and then marked with the GECO trade make logo.
Anschutz(sp?) made them, as did Sauer IIRC and several other makers.
Some are even of Belgian mfg then GECO retail marked.

Neat little rifles, Simple and can be very accurate.

I have one my Dad brought back from Germany after WW2.
Another I purchased at a gunshow some years back that is the same set up but has double set triggers, a checkered stock w/ horn forend tip, cheek piece and a heavier milled steel trigger guard than the stamped steel usually found.

The Polish WZ-48 .22cal training rifle imported in some quantity about 20 yrs ago is built with the same simple action and extractor/ejector system, just bigger all around for a full size Military (training) rifle effect.

Sounds like some neat projects to keep you busy..
 
#5 ·
Thank you ktr for the reply.

I found that what you said actually makes sense to me now. I’ve noticed the same Geco model 1919 have different stocks (Cheek plate, checkering), different trigger guards, and even different butt plates (Plastic and metal). Having many different manufacturers making the same product for Geco now makes sense! I was wondering if people were sporterizing these rifles because of all the minor differences.

Yes, this is somewhat of a fun project. It’s probably going to be cheaper for me to buy one than to piece this one back together. As of right now, I have $15 in a takedown screw and $25.00 in the extractor (Not too bad). I just need the proper fitting butt plate and trigger guard. Fun project.. but I probably won’t even shoot it after it’s complete.

Once again, thank you for the comment!