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Enfield Rifle ?

3.8K views 66 replies 18 participants last post by  donki1967  
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Hi,
Once again, I need your expertise. I found this rifle for sale on an auction site. The photos aren't very good, and the seller won't take any more...
In your opinion, is it worth it, or is it not worth bidding?
I suppose it's the ancestor of the SMLE. Thank you.

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#3 ·
It’s a BSA commercial Long Lee. The PB-prefixed rifles were supplied to New Zealand in the 1920s (IIRC ‘24-‘26) as barreled receivers to replace worn out rifles. The HG markings on the receiver ring are for the NZ Home Guard, 10th district is Christchurch. Because they were supplied as barreled receivers, bolts generally don’t match. I have one that’s 1000 later serial & about 1500 earlier HG numbered.
 
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donki1967: What is it you're looking for? If just a good representative example of the type, this one might be fine. Factory originality doesn't appear to be relevant or a consideration given the good information from DisasterDog above. The markings and history are quite interesting. If you're thinking range gun there's no telling from the info provided. The mismatched bolt is not a major concern—I just had two Long-Lees to the range yesterday and my 1896 Mk I (bolt mismatch) outshot my very crisp-looking and matching 1901 MK I* by a considerable margin. Both have pretty loose bores consistent with lots of use.

Ruprecht
 
#9 ·
It looks to be in good overall condition, and @DisasterDog explains an interesting history and rifle! I say go for it, but it's easy to spend other peoples money!
 
#11 ·
From what I understand, the sale is following a death and the seller is not a shooter.
I won't have the requested information until the day before the auction ends.
In my entire collection, I'm looking for nice pieces, not necessarily "matching" but in shooting condition, and that's imperative.
The weapon is located in Europe.
As for the price, I saw one go for €1,500 two weeks ago.
 
#13 ·
And here.

Aus $1 = GBP £0.50

So, agreed, yes its a £1000 rifle.
 
#27 ·
Unfortunately, I didn't win the auction. I think there's a computer priority given to residents of the auction location in automated auctions.
It's not the first time I've noticed this, and yet, financially, I put a lot into it...
 
#33 ·
I'm sorry to read that, donki1967 :cautious: Bad story, true.. .

But still then, go ahead, yes. Even though I fear the pricing structure for our Enfields is exactly as Alan d.E. described in his post. :giggle: This development is even here in the "peripheral nation" CH, concerning foreign army-rifles, obvious. I hardly can mention today the old prices for my Mark 3 and No.4 - and No.5-Rifle.. .

The experience shows: but suddenly, really rare models appear somewhere once again :oops: patience is the key.

P.S: Writer Ambrose Bierce says in his "Devils Dictionary": Patience: a lesser form of despair, masked as virtue.. 🤗


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#28 ·
Normally I'd say, never mind "there are plenty more fish in the sea", but in Enfield land the sea has been badly overfished and they are no longer breeding - you may have to pay 'too much' but if you want one, it is just an investment where you have paid tommorows price today.