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I was talking in an earlier post about "Zulu" being released in BluRay high definition.
Well for those who would like to see the improvement a Canadian website has now posted comparison photos of identical frames from each of the 5 Zulu DVD versions available (including the BluRay version).
The differences are startling, not only image quality but different picture cropping as well. You can see the pictures here:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/zulu.htm

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I was talking in an earlier post about "Zulu" being released in BluRay high definition.
Well for those who would like to see the improvement a Canadian website has now posted comparison photos of identical frames from each of the 5 Zulu DVD versions available (including the BluRay version).
The differences are startling, not only image quality but different picture cropping as well. You can see the pictures here:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/zulu.htm

Peter (Burlington, Ontario)
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A personal favorite movie, and the comparison was awesome!! I wish Santa would bring me one for Christmas :)
 

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One must look past such details to 'enjoy' the movie. Today I watched a U.S. Civil War movie and there were scenes where the troops were using (1873) trap-door Springfields. Kinda like seeing a '57 Chevy in a WWII movie.

I find myself zeroing in on all things firearms in any movie: 15 shot revolvers, 30 shot 9mm semi-autos, and rifles that never seen the light of day until 10+ years after the time depicted, etc.

My wife gets quite annoyed during my critiques.
 

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Don't get me wrong, It's a Whacking GREAT movie! Just noted the oddities
1. Pte Hook was a teetotlar and known as a good soldier
2. Commisary Dalton actualy convinced Chard and Bromhead to fortify the drift instead of retreating
3. They couldn't have been singing Men of Harlech, as there were only 11 Welshmen there and they certainly wouldn't have been singing it in english. At the time it was NOT a Welsh regiment
4.The rifles at the redoubt were Long Lees.
5. Chard and Bromhead both had revolvers that were not made until 1915
6 the Revrend Witt actualy helped in fortifying the drift and since he had a wife and three kids, there was no reason for him to stay. (certainly not an alcoholic)
7.Colour sgt Bourne would have been lucky to grow those mutton chops since he was known as "The kid" by the rest of the unit. Only in his early 20's
8. The rest of the troops were in violation of regulations as they were clean shaven.
A standing order required moustaches and beards to make the troops look "more fierce"

On another movis, "The Blue Max" They used the Irish Army for both sides, only changing helmets, but the rest of their kit was British including the rifles.
The Experimental fighter that Stachel was killed in, was actualy a late 1930's FRENCH Morane
 

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John, I hate to disagree with you - but I have heard this factoid about the 24th being English and not Welsh repeated a few times on this Board. If you listen to David Rattray's authoritative audio CDs on the battle, it is clear that the 24th had been recruiting in Wales (where it was based) for years before the AZW and many if not most of the defenders of Rorkes Drift were recruited in the Monmothshire / Brecon / south-east Wales areas.
"The Army Reforms of 1782 sought to allocate infantry regiments to specific recruiting areas. The 6th and 24th of Foot were allocated to the County of Warwick - they were given the titles 6th (1st Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot and 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot. The reason for the choice of Warwickshire is not known. However, the scheme failed for the 24th as no permanent recruiting base or depot was established in the County. The 24th continued to recruit where best it could. It was given a permanent depot in Brecon and a recruiting area in the border counties of Wales in 1873. A large number of young men from Wales served in the Anglo-Zulu war of 1879. Interestingly, there were only two Warwickshire-born men at the defence of Rorke's Drift. "
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The regiment was indeed classed as a Warwickshire one till two years after Rorke's Drift, but I think its renaming recognised an existing situation, and although quite definitely mixed in its recruitment, it had a higher Welsh content than some people claim. Birmingham and its surrounding industrial areas were in a state of great expansion at the time, and many of its inhabitants came from Wales. The composition of British regiments is a complex matter, and nowadays hard to trace, but it is perfectly possible that one of the regiments recruiting in this conurbation could have been more attractive to the Welsh than others. There certainly seemed to be a high proportion of Welsh surnames.

Witt certainly claimed to have been at the Drift through the battle, and gave lectures on this basis, but his claim is rejected by Donald Morris in "The Washing of the Spears", which I think is still the best all-round book on the war and its background. The film has a tendency to inject far more interpersonal conflict than actually existed. I don't think there was that much difference of background between Chard and Bromhead, or that it would have cut much ice with the rest of the army if there were. Subaltern were hard on uppity aristocrats among their number. Certainly being a Royal Engineer wasn't seen as being second-rate or almost non-combatant. Gordon and Kitchener were both Engineers, and by 1879 Gordon was a legend with most of his faults largely unrevealed.

I certainly don't think there was much indecision about whether to fight. They knew they couldn't outrun Zulus, especially if they took the sick, and defending a small and fortified perimeter with modern weapons gave them a very good chance of survival. I don't think they felt incapable of further resistance if the Zulus had continued the assault, either, and their dominant feeling at the end, while not unmixed with horror, was probably that they had won. British regiments all have their different temperaments, and you could hardly have picked a better one to hold a good position without panic.

BluRay might make it easier to see that of the lines of Zulus on the hills above the Drift, many groups consisted of "men" of whom the middle ones had plumes and shields, but only those at the ends had legs. It was a low-budget film. I think the actual battle was pretty true to life, although the charges were probably more frequent, and certainly involved more than the 500 extras they had. One of only a few details of the fight I could fault is that I very much doubt if they held their fire until 100 yards. The range of the Martini was far greater, and as a stores depot they had plenty of ammunition. You don't get many shots with even a very fast-loading single-shot rifle in the time it takes Zulus to run 100 yards. It is a little surprising that more Zulus weren't killed, estimates mostly running around 500. But rapid fire would have resulted in the defenders firing into a much denser wall of smoke than is seen in the film.

I've just watched the extra material on my DVD version, including an interview with the widow of John Prebble the historian, who was one of the main scriptwriters. It seems that some of the quite incorrect characterisation of Hook etc., at which his family complains, came from Prebble, because he thought he had to dramatise a little more.

Colour-Sergeant Bourne was indeed 24, with little if any combat experience, and was already thought to be the man who was going somewhere. He became a lieutenant-colonel, as he might have done without Rorke's Drift, and died on VE Day. He recorded a radio talk of which no recording exists, but the transcript can be found online. He claimed that nobody was killed or seriously wounded by assegais, which is an exaggeration, as some men in the hospital almost certainly were. It seems to have been true, though, that most casualties were caused by gunfire, and the rifle and bayonet, in the hands of a man who knew not to engage it in the hide shield, was more than a match for the assegai. There is a tradition that King Chaka's substitution of the stabbing spear for javelins was inspired by the sight of the bayoneted musket, but the assegai might more correctly be classed as a mostly wooden sword. He is often thought to be wrong in saying that the Zulu firearms came from Isandhlwana, but the defenders heard the gunfire and saw the smoke, and I don't think the timespan makes it impossible.

http://www.rorkesdriftvc.com/defenders/tran.htm
 

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Guns used by the Zulus are a fascinating subject, and I should greatly value any information which others can provide. As far as I have been able to determine, by 1873 (Cetshwayo's coronation) and even more by 1879 the world was awash with surplus muzzle loaders, and an Enfield muzzle loader could be purchased in Zululand for the price of a sheep. Much of the trade was done by John Dunn, the white Zulu chief. These muzzle loaders were used like throwing spears - fired once, they were laid aside for the assault with assegais. In the attached pictures, I will show what evidence I have gathered on the subject. Any input appreciated.
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1st pic shows 3 bullets retrieved by me in the 1960s from the caves on the Oskarberg, 400 yds from the mission station at Rorkes Drift. The musket ball and minie bullet probably come from Zulu sharpshooters who used these caves in the battle. Contrast with a flattened MH round fired by the defenders.
2: Artists impression of indunas leading an impi on the march
3. Flintlock (presumed Zulu) retrieved from a cave in Zululand (not by me)
4. Zulu trophies in a British Royal Palace in 1880s
5. Dabulamanzi (C in C Rorkes Drift) and his indunas before the AZW
6. nTshingwayo (C in C Isandhlwana and Khambula) before the AZW
7. Bullet pouches and flask retrieved at Ginginhlovu soon after the battle - notably, many MHs numbered to the 24th were retrieved. The pouches aparently contained letters from soldiers at Isandhlwana, to be used as wadding
8 and 9 Artists impressions of Zulu warriors
 

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I have also heard of Snider bullets being retrieved from the ledges of the Oskarberg, and the person who told me thought that British sharpshooters in the battle might have used them in preference to the new and relatively untried Martini-Henry. I don't believe that, though, for I'm sure anybody who knew his business would have considered the Martini a superior long-range or rapid-fire weapon from day one.

More likely people had been stopping off at the Drift since it was built, and taking the odd few shots at any conspicuous mark on the hillside with whatever arms they had. That is a common pattern around settlements in the old west. The other artefacts you illustrate are good evidence that the Zulus, like most African tribes, had some guns as soon as they were able to trade for them. They weren't expertly used, but well enough to cause quite a number of casualties.
 

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I should point out that the musket ball and minie bullet are unfired. It is well docmented in contemporary acounts of the AZW that the Zulus were critically short of lead (though they had a powder magazine at Ulundi). So I think that the Zulus who dropped these whilst in the caves were being uncharacteristically careless - and hence either wounded or they dropped them in the dark and left in haste.
As far as Zulu casualties and the firepower of the MH, it is recorded that ~20,000 rounds were fired at Rorkes Drift; there were 350 Zulus buried after the battle these were killed in the battle (or lying wounded when the mission was relieved and killed where they lay). Probably a similar number of dead or wounded and dragged off on their war shields by their comrades. This means about 1 in 30 MH bullets found a target. This in turn suggests to me that, even allowing for the darkness, the Zulu forces must have been kept some distance away (or prone behind cover) by suppressive fire, between assaults. The effect of distance is critical in determining the rate of hits to shots fired - in the Anglo Boer War the British fired well in excess of 100,000 rounds for each Boer killed.
 
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