[Hollywood Hero]

I'm a "rookie" builder with a lot to learn and I havent purchased a kit yet, but I've found one of a Yugo M64 which is obviously an older model and the only reciever I've located so far is an M70 model. Another issue is the one I found is stamped and the one they cut with the kit is milled so I've got a feeling that will be a big issue in itself. But that is why I'm leaning on the experts here............... Thanks in advance for all the help I'm sure I'll receive

 

[AKBLUE]

I'm a "rookie" builder with a lot to learn and I havent purchased a kit yet, but I've found one of a Yugo M64 which is obviously an older model and the only reciever I've located so far is an M70 model. Another issue is the one I found is stamped and the one they cut with the kit is milled so I've got a feeling that will be a big issue in itself. But that is why I'm leaning on the experts here............... Thanks in advance for all the help I'm sure I'll receive

http://www.ak-47.us/Yugoslavia.php

 

[meyerse]

A milled gun can be made to fit in a stamped receiver but you are looking at a lot of work. There were m64 milled receivers made, but again the asembly isn't as easy as a stamped kit on a stamped receiver. You should also be careful about the bore on these kits. They were not chrome lined and shot with corosvie amo. Many were used durring the balkan conflic and not well maintained. I'm not sure I'd recommend a m64 kit for the first build....

 

[Guest]

There are one companys m64 receivers available .They are problematic ,troublesome and hard to build on .M64's are also screw in barrels ,where m70's are not . There are 2 kinds of m70's .milled and stamped . They are both pressed and pinned barrels. You can use a milled to build a stamped ,but you need a front trunion and rear trunion from a stamped kit to make it work .Then the M70 milled barrel can be pressed in to the stamped trunion , and must then be headspaced and drilled for an oversize pin . Its much easier to buy a stamped m70 kit and build that yourself .Or have a milled built for you ,and forget about the do it yourself approach. Wach barrel condition ,since alot of yugo's wont have a servicable bore .

 

[Guest]

There are one companys m64 receivers available .They are problematic ,troublesome and hard to build on .M64's are also screw in barrels ,where m70's are not . There are 2 kinds of m70's .milled and stamped . They are both pressed and pinned barrels. You can use a milled to build a stamped ,but you need a front trunion and rear trunion from a stamped kit to make it work .Then the M70 milled barrel can be pressed in to the stamped trunion , and must then be headspaced and drilled for an oversize pin . Its much easier to buy a stamped m70 kit and build that yourself .Or have a milled built for you ,and forget about the do it yourself approach. Watch barrel condition ,since alot of yugo's wont have a servicable bore .

Heres a pic of an m64 folder ,they come in a fixed stock style and theres an RPK that used the same receiver. the big lightning cut in the front and the side rear of the receiver is on m64's .The m70 milled is flatsided .

 

[sjohnson]

More pictures of early Yugo AKs can be seen at http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111980 along with a lively discussion regarding the provenance of what may or may not be the M64 Yugo AK. Got one guy banned over there I think.

I don't know why GB forum is caching that link as an attachment, maybe this one will direct the reader to the thread. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111980

 

[Guest]

Well I have heard this before . Actualy I got in an arguement about russian ak's with one of the guys in that thread . He is the proclaimed expert on another Ak forum since he was in the military in germany and has bought a bunch of demils and been to a few military museums in europe ,So the web site he helps moderate claimed him king .The guy realy hasnt a clue and is wrong about alot of his presumptions .He fought with me over electropenciling being a sign of an original rifle and my stamped version ment it was a refurb !!! Those of us that collect more soviet firearms than just ak's ..know better.
This is what I was told by a UN Interpreter that was in the Serb military that helps with interpreting my wood stock carvings .I actualy got him from a UN website.. What we are calling the M64 ,is what they call an early m70 .They dont designate the m64 from m70 milled rifles .There are just simply early style m70's .M64 was a prototype number .We named it m64, they did not. So technicaly in all corectness ,my m64 is actualy an early receiver m70 to them .No big deal .

 

[rayman1]

I have a "1973"-dated Yugoslavian military manual on the M70 and M70A which covers the milled receiver version with the lightening cut on the right side. The full-buttstock version is listed as the "M70"; the underfolding buttstock version is listed as the "M70A."

Well I have heard this before . Actualy I got in an arguement about russian ak's with one of the guys in that thread . He is the proclaimed expert on another Ak forum since he was in the military in germany and has bought a bunch of demils and been to a few military museums in europe ,So the web site he helps moderate claimed him king .The guy realy hasnt a clue and is wrong about alot of his presumptions .He fought with me over electropenciling being a sign of an original rifle and my stamped version ment it was a refurb !!! Those of us that collect more soviet firearms than just ak's ..know better.

I don't believe that member ever laid claim to knowing everything or gives the impression as such. He has been quite a student of the Kalashnikov for a great many years and actually helped to provided one of the best photo guides for references around. I've known him for many years and he's always been very insightful on the technical aspects. No single person knows everything. But he's been a Kalashnikov Collectors Association member for a very long time and has devoted a great deal of time, effort, and money into studying it - visiting numerous museums throughout Europe and Russia, interviewing folks, photographing every variant he ran across, having access to literally hundreds of Kalashnikovs to study through the military, made available a lot of rare Kalashnikov accessories that weren't very known in the US, etc. No "king" - just quite a knowledgeable fellow that's helped people do countless Kalashnikov clone builds. Many of his photographs have been used on a lot of forums by people that really don't even know where they came from.

Sometimes we, as Kalashnikov enthusiasts, hobbyists, and interested parties often don't agree with exactly everything. And the fact that there's often conflicting information/no pattern to the Kalashnikov at time definately doesn't help, either. But please watch how you speak about another fellow collector here who I believe is also a member here - there's more than a few members here that are members of that other board and no one has mentioned anything about what happened with you over there.

 

[Guest]

I have a "1973"-dated Yugoslavian military manual on the M70 and M70A which covers the milled receiver version with the lightening cut on the right side. The full-buttstock version is listed as the "M70"; the underfolding buttstock version is listed as the "M70A."



I don't believe that member ever laid claim to knowing everything or gives the impression as such. He has been quite a student of the Kalashnikov for a great many years and actually helped to provided one of the best photo guides for references around. I've known him for many years and he's always been very insightful on the technical aspects. No single person knows everything. But he's been a Kalashnikov Collectors Association member for a very long time and has devoted a great deal of time, effort, and money into studying it - visiting numerous museums throughout Europe and Russia, interviewing folks, photographing every variant he ran across, having access to literally hundreds of Kalashnikovs to study through the military, made available a lot of rare Kalashnikov accessories that weren't very known in the US, etc. No "king" - just quite a knowledgeable fellow that's helped people do countless Kalashnikov clone builds. Many of his photographs have been used on a lot of forums by people that really don't even know where they came from.

Sometimes we, as Kalashnikov enthusiasts, hobbyists, and interested parties often don't agree with exactly everything. And the fact that there's often conflicting information/no pattern to the Kalashnikov at time definately doesn't help, either. But please watch how you speak about another fellow collector here who I believe is also a member here - there's more than a few members here that are members of that other board and no one has mentioned anything about what happened with you over there.

I wont entertain your veiw you are assuming alot . milage may vary . BTW I never mentioned anyone in particular or any sight in particular maybe your mistaken? And you wach how you speek sir . You want to mention what happened since your so knowledgable ? First read the rules before you start flaming . I will gladly discuss this to you in person away from these boards if you want to continue. I am no amature collector either and I am not easily impressed .