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These guys who keep buying all the K11 carbines. Im trying to get one, but I keep seeing the same guys bidding and buying. Why are they so dam greedy!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:
 

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:D, Cause they only go UP, in value.
 

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Collector Greed

I know how you feel, these so called collectors (old and rich) are buying everything in sight and restoring what is mismatched, they then ask for the big bucks when they sell their pieces off, self preservation of future inflation of their "Collection"

Their keeping example of weapons away from new buyers who are trying to get into the sport, collecting, and even shooting milsurps.

Pretty much the same mentality of the M1 collectors the past 30 years.

They say its about preserving history but its about the MONEY and GREED and not promoting the sport.

Milsurp shooter, competitor, promoter.
 

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USMCsean.........so! marines wear knickers? I always suspected as much, lol.

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formerly of the 82nd Airborne
 

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I would really like it to say, Chaps my Ass! But I was trying to keep it clean for the kiddies.
 

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Well ya know what, I started my collection at 40. Im 47. I started out with 1 rifle, it accumulated from there. I sold some to upgrade to something more valuable ie: k11, m94, etc.... I am by no means rich. Why do collectors collect? Cause we want to and can. I couldnt collect squat before 40, Now I make alittle more money ,my kids are out of the house and Im going to enjoy collecting some things I always wanted. Is it foolish? Maybe. But I enjoy it. People collect coins, beer cans ,antiques, baseball cards etc...Why? , because we want to. And NO im not some greedy bastard trying to buy up all the k11's I see. ( I have 3) For one, I couldnt afford it. So enough of the sour grapes.
 

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I only have 1 more spot available in the gun safe. So their's my deterrent.
(Swiss ladys so far; just have one 1911 long, and two K31's.)

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zero ethics

Know how you feel, USMCsean. I'm usually on another Swiss board; there are far too many of these cretins who brag about owning double-digit numbers. "Investment" my butt, where I come from it's called G-R-E-E-D.
I tend to keep my mouth shut and my sensors open, but this time I had to speak. A few extra for security and parts, fine. 17 rifles?! Wall Street is the proper place for that kind of mentality. Riflemen are supposed to be a Brotherhood of Skill and Honor.........which just proves I'm "out of touch" with whatever. And proud of it.

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I mostly agree with this sentiment ^^, but I also know that it was through the kindness of another collector that I received my beloved tiger-striped '39 K31. It is possible that those "hoarders" out there may still yet see you as a brother in need and decide to let you purchase one of theirs at a fair-market price. Maybe you just oughta ask?
 

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Simpson's LTD has a bunch of K-11's in the $350-400 range.Check them out.They have multiple photo's of each one,and you can pick the one you like.
 

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Collector's motives

I have collected more milsurp weapons than I actually need. I was aware I was doing that and intended to do so. I make no apologies for it. I have sporterized some and make no apologies for that either. I have also given away 2 MN 91-30 rifles and an M-39, a Yugo M-48A, a Swedish M-38 and a Spanish M-43 sporter to young fellows I wanted to help get started as responsible gun owners. I gave another Swedish M-38 to a 60 year old boyhood friend from Alaska who was visiting me. I have given away 2 reloading presses to help people get started into reloading.

I couldn't afford squat for many years. When I finally could, I began to purchase milsurp rifles. Now I carefully choose who I give them to. They are not purely collectors. I choose them because they are responsible. They want to shoot their weapons and they understand the importance of their weapon in todays life. It's not that they may not appreciate the weapon's history, but they don't dwell on the past to the point that it excludes a meaningful future for these weapons.

Today I am almost back to not being able to afford squat again, but I do barely manage to keep my weapons fed. I have more to give away and I will eventually find young people worthy of them.

I've got a sporterized (1950's) Swiss 96/11 that's wearing a Remington 03-A3 barrel chambered in 308 WIN. It shoots fine and that's what a firearm is supposed to do. It's just not as pristine as collectors like.

I can appreciate that you want a particular type of milsurp and it's likely that someday one will wind up in your hands. It is, on the other hand, unfair to paint people who outbid you as necessarily greedy. I am not saying that all of them will be giving away rifles to others, but who knows, maybe they will..............Mike
 

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How many of some of the people posting, have a wall full of Mosins? or whatever?, its the samething different country. Maybe this subject should be posted up on the Collectors forum and see if the so called ;cretin, greedy, gun hoarders appreciate it?.
 

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I feel so ashamed...not! I love to collect Swiss rifles and a collection is not just one in my book. If I so choose to have more than one of each rifle then that is my right. I've put time and effort into my collection along with working a part time job to allow the extra money so I didn't take from my family.

There's far worse things in this world to get chapped by than the number of rifles in my collection.

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It is about time you young and poor scamps learn how the world works!!! Har! Har! Har! The wisdom of age and the power of wealth are hard to beat! Har! Har! Har! Nothing is more fun than outgunning the young and poor scamps, making off with their desired milsurps from under their noses and enticing the beautiful, sweet, young things on their arms with a thick money clip full of $100 bills at the gun shows and clubs! Har! Har! Har!
I sure enjoy sweeping back my thick, flowing mane of silvery gray hair, as I flash the thick gold chains and platnium jewelry around my neck, showing the young ladies the diamond pendant nestled in my gray chest hairs around the open buttons of my new $500 silver gray leisure suit, while winking and leering at those sweet, young and poor lovelys, smiling and tellin' 'em they should drop the young "poor boys" and go around with a real man, an older gentleman with money, a silver fox of a man in his late 60's with a new Lincoln, Porche or Mercede's! Har! Har! Har! The sweet, young things sure do like the money I can spend on them once I steal them away, and are they ever impressed as I outbid and outbuy and outspend their young and poor boy friends! Har! Har! Har! I just love getting both the Swiss rilfes as well as the young pretty girls! Har! Har! Har! Sure do like swilling down the champaign too while wrapping my old and monied arms around those young sweet honeys! Once they've had champaign cocktails they won't settle for beer anymore! Har! Har! Har!
You young and poor scamps, work hard, and in 50 years or so, you too can be an old, rich silver fox collector able to afford viagra, cialis, beautiful Swiss rifles and pretty young women! Har! Har! Har! I been poor and I been rich, ...an believe me rich is better! Har! Har! Har! Remember, he who dies with the most toys, girlfriends and filled up charge cards...WINS!!! Eat your hearts out...you young whippersnappers! Har! Har! Har!
Opps! Oh, oh! The Spouse just looked over my shoulder and caught me fanatasizing here on the computer and am I getting an evil glare!!! Just kidding guys! Really, just kidding!!! LOL! Good luck finding your Swiss treasures and don't worry as money and wisdom do not necessarily come with age! The Spouse controls all the wealth in our happy family, enforces the lack of girlfriends and keeps me in a Ford instead of a Porche or Lincoln! Happiness is a good and nice Spouse who gives you a generous but limited monthly allowance for your collection!!! I love you honey! Yes dear, I'll be good! Yes dear, I'll remember where the butter for the bread comes from! Thank you, dear! I love you sweetheart! LOL!
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I got mine!

Serial 36XXX (1915)
Privatized 1922
All matching
Mint bore and crown
No import marks

I like my K31s, but holding a K11 is like dancing with a slim graceful lady.
 

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It is about time you young and poor scamps learn how the world works!!! Har! Har! Har! The wisdom of age and the power of wealth are hard to beat! Har! Har! Har! Nothing is more fun than outgunning the young and poor scamps, making off with their desired milsurps from under their noses and enticing the beautiful, sweet, young things on their arms with a thick money clip full of $100 bills at the gun shows and clubs! Har! Har! Har!
I sure enjoy sweeping back my thick, flowing mane of silvery gray hair, as I flash the thick gold chains and platnium jewelry around my neck, showing the young ladies the diamond pendant nestled in my gray chest hairs around the open buttons of my new $500 silver gray leisure suit, while winking and leering at those sweet, young and poor lovelys, smiling and tellin' 'em they should drop the young "poor boys" and go around with a real man, an older gentleman with money, a silver fox of a man in his late 60's with a new Lincoln, Porche or Mercede's! Har! Har! Har! The sweet, young things sure do like the money I can spend on them once I steal them away, and are they ever impressed as I outbid and outbuy and outspend their young and poor boy friends! Har! Har! Har! I just love getting both the Swiss rilfes as well as the young pretty girls! Har! Har! Har! Sure do like swilling down the champaign too while wrapping my old and monied arms around those young sweet honeys! Once they've had champaign cocktails they won't settle for beer anymore! Har! Har! Har!
You young and poor scamps, work hard, and in 50 years or so, you too can be an old, rich silver fox collector able to afford viagra, cialis, beautiful Swiss rifles and pretty young women! Har! Har! Har! I been poor and I been rich, ...an believe me rich is better! Har! Har! Har! Remember, he who dies with the most toys, girlfriends and filled up charge cards...WINS!!! Eat your hearts out...you young whippersnappers! Har! Har! Har!
Opps! Oh, oh! The Spouse just looked over my shoulder and caught me fanatasizing here on the computer and am I getting an evil glare!!! Just kidding guys! Really, just kidding!!! LOL! Good luck finding your Swiss treasures and don't worry as money and wisdom do not necessarily come with age! The Spouse controls all the wealth in our happy family, enforces the lack of girlfriends and keeps me in a Ford instead of a Porche or Lincoln! Happiness is a good and nice Spouse who gives you a generous but limited monthly allowance for your collection!!! I love you honey! Yes dear, I'll be good! Yes dear, I'll remember where the butter for the bread comes from! Thank you, dear! I love you sweetheart! LOL!
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Har! Har! Har! That was great.
 

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You got some nerve whining Sean!

Who got the mahogany stocked M96 from Dutchman for FREE?

I think you did....;)
 

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