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Oh my god, the flood of these guys with more money than sense will absolutely ruin this hobby, it will be just like collecting german stuff.
 

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I'd say it already is, the German stuff's pretty well dried up and what hasn't is at least well enough known that nobody gives away old kraut rifles anymore.

Blame yourselves, though, you've made Arisakas understandable, accessable, and dispelled the myths that kept it unpopular.
 

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Oh my god, the flood of these guys with more money than sense will absolutely ruin this hobby, it will be just like collecting german stuff.
This is a primo piece ( I got the extra photos from the seller). It would be hard to top, but the price really surprised me.
 

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All I know is that I feel mighty good about the one I now have. I bought it in '06 for $700 :)
 

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It's a shame that a guy like me, who just started in the Japanese hobby, will have no chance on being able to afford some nice quality pieces, unless I get reaaly lucky.
 

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And, I used to get laughed at for buying this "junk". I mentioned my "disease" to a fella at work a while back & he said "you collect that junk"? Some folks still don't get it.
 

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It's a shame that a guy like me, who just started in the Japanese hobby, will have no chance on being able to afford some nice quality pieces, unless I get reaaly lucky.
Don't fret, there are still deals out there.
 

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Don't fret, there are still deals out there.
Quite right.

Only two bidders, one is the senior editor of SGN, for what that's worth.

The other guy has the same last name as the new CEO of Bank America! Maybe a celebration.

Nice rifle, but perhaps several years too soon on the price.
 

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Price surprised me too! Are we certain dustcover was matching?
Funny you should mention that. I went back & checked the photos he sent. The dust cover photo is fuzzy & looks like it's numbered 420 when it should be 410. Hmmm.
 

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Don't fret, there are still deals out there.
There are still some good deals out there. Here's a Nagoya 1st Series I picked-up at the Saratoga Show on Friday night. It's completely matching, including the dust cover. The mum is untouched and the piece is in very good condition. It's not "minty" like the auction piece shown here, but it's what I lovingly refer to as a "just out of the closet" piece. Never fooled with and it remains in essentially "as captured" condition.

The auction piece is nice, and the sling, muzzle cover and bayonet make it nicer, but a price of $2800+ is simply insane. I admit that I am spoiled, having collected Japanese rifles for 25+ years, but the price is inexplicable even for today's market. I simply refuse to accept a rational, market-based valuation greater than $1500. I could never pay that, but I can see a dedicated collector, who did not experience the joy of buying Arisakas in the 70's and 80's, paying that premium to get a premium piece. A price of $2800+ is more a reflection of the buyer's deep pockets than the "reasonable" value of the rifle in question.

PS: Sorry for the bad photos. I didn't have time to get a more appropriate colored background and the flash was overpowered by the white backing.
 

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Nice rifle! So what kind of deal did you get on it??
 

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This is the same guy who originally posted it and a type 38 for something like $4500.
 

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Richard, you can overcome the light background with a photo program. I use photo shop. I use a painters drop cloth for most of my backgrounds & the photos always start out dark. With the program I can adjust the lighting and contrast to get a nice photo. Just a tip.
 
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