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Voting Democrat and a gun owner?

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#1 ·
So for those of you who are voting for the Democrats who said they want to take away your semi-auto weapons:

1) Do you only collect bolt action guns and revolvers or do you think they are really not going to try to take your semi-autos? 2) Are you are willing to sacrifice your RKBA (at least part of it) to get other progressive policy?
 
#2 ·
I'd do pretty much anything to get rid of a wanna be dictator and mafia-lite kingpin.
He was a democrat a few years ago and is on the record with his views on confiscating firearms without going to court first.
Dude is a con man, is quite famous for grifting and if you have confidence in him, well brother you have been conned.
 
#6 ·
From the LA Times....Not exactly a Conservative Friendly Newspaper....

Trump and Biden on guns: Far apart on policy and perspective
The Democrats inevitably favor tighter restrictions on gun purchases and ownership, believing that the constraints will help prevent mass shootings and drive down more everyday gun violence. The Republicans inevitably prefer greater liberty for gun owners and users, arguing that even modest restrictions infringe on a fundamental right of self-defense and hobby ownership guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment. Rarely in the twain do the parties meet. ]
The Trump administration loosened regulations on the export of firearms and the online publication of technical information about guns, and it reversed an Obama-era rule restricting gun purchases by people deemed by the Social Security Administration to be mentally unable to manage their affairs.
After a massacre at a Parkland, Fla., high school in 2018, Trump suggested arming schoolteachers who were “adept” with guns as a response to school shootings. Polls showed most teachers opposed the concept, which was also opposed by teachers unions.
After Democrats took control of the House of Representatives in 2018 and introduced legislation to expand background checks and more tightly regulate gun sales and transfers, the Trump administration threatened to veto the measures if they came to the president’s desk.
Trump’s personal talk on guns has sometimes drifted away from his administration’s walk.
Trump expressed an openness to expanding background checks and so-called red flag laws that allow the government to take guns away from a person deemed to be at higher risk of committing violence.
Apart from a narrow ban on niche “bump stock” accessories used by a gunman to increase his rate of fire in the 2017 Las Vegas massacre, Trump did not take action and has resumed bashing Democrats for pursuing tighter regulations, earning plaudits from gun activists.
“You promised to defend the 2nd Amendment and stand tall for the constitutional freedoms in which our members believe,” the NRA said in a July endorsement of Trump’s reelection. “You have delivered on your promise in extraordinary ways.” In a recent interview with a Catholic TV station, Trump declared that “I saved the 2nd Amendment. If I wasn’t here, you wouldn’t have a 2nd Amendment.”
Biden supports universal background checks and a ban on the manufacture and sale of semiautomatic rifles and higher-capacity magazines, along with tighter regulation or the buyback of those weapons currently in private hands.
He also supports banning online sales of weapons and ammunition and requiring background checks for people buying gun kits or 3D printer codes for guns.


A vote for the Democrats is a vote to remove the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. That is just a fact.
 
#7 ·
Some people just need to be told what to do. The church is the guide line for some. The Union is the guide line for some. Family tradition for others. Many people are single issue voters. It is what it is. I voted for Trump and knew what he was. Still better than voting communist. Actually, he turned out better than I thought he would. If you voted for Trump and will not this time, I guess you were just stupid the first time around.
 
#11 ·
40% plus of any gun collections values should have been ammo since Clinton!
they will go after ammo statistically easier, than house to house warrant searches when law enforcements national guard, military families knows others knocking on parents, families, friends doors in other states...no that wouldn't work in my humble opinion<><Dan
 
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.22lr might be the currency of the future.....

The Democratic party is not at all today, what they were in the Clinton era and before.....its gone criminally insane and hateful.

Being "Pro Gun Democrat " is almost oxymoron, with a heavy emphasis on 'moron'.

Giving a vote to a person who wants to restrict your Rights is down right Stupid.........and thats ANY Right, like owning guns, Fair trial, Voting, Free Speech, Free assembly, Free religion, etc, etc, etc....which of those Rights do you think they will work on after taking guns??


Perhaps......
Freedom of Speech, but watch what you say? No offending anyone, now.....

A trial without facing an accuser, or perhaps assumed guilty until proven innocent? Because the mob decides whos to be charged in court....

100% voter turn out and the favorite won , again, because his is the only name on the ballots....

You can own guns.......but only those made in black powder era.....because the Revolution was fought with such....

"....Curfew at 7 pm, immediately after work......" ....... as Socialist Boss's like to say....

On the face of it all, I decide my vote by those who will leave my Rights in place, if not enhance them, and employ them as servents with some temporary power.

Never trust a politician.
 
#16 ·
Anybody who is actually a gun owner and enthusiast has to vote for Trump if they care about preserving their firearm rights for the next 4+ years. Anybody who doesn't is a fool, idiot, anti 2a, or they really aren't into firearms that much. The Dems have repeatedly stated their intentions--it's on video. They can lie during debates, but their actions don't match the words they speak when they're trying to court non-leftist voters (nor the words they speak when they're in their natural habitat). After reading a bunch of nonsense, I'm not sure if some people's memory can store more than a month or two of memories. Again, the past three years have seen dirt cheap gun prices and ammunition. Last year, I bought a Sig 365 for $350 (after rebates and discounts). Gander Outdoors had Sig suppressors dirt cheap as they were eliminating them from their inventory. I bought an Aimpoint Pro for $189 for Gander when they were liquidating their inventory at their store. My friend bought a Vortex Razor for $750. You don't get prices like that when the 2A is under attack. Sorry, you don't.
 
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Don Juan Wins owned many guns prior to his drop to the highest rung on the ladder, he was a Concealed carry holder in New York, as I understand, but now hes past carrying a weapon.
Still, it shows some responsibilty and sense of proper use and ownership of self defence arms sitting at the POTUS desk
POTUS fights on many unseen fronts;
I imagine Its possible Trump's had himself infected with Wuhan virus just so he could cure himself with Hydroxychloroquine and zink, just to prove Dems wrong for the hell of it...

I wouldn't put it past him........his leadership has many twists
 
#20 ·
All I know is that Karma is a bitch.
 
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There's one comment in that feed that stands out to me and I think it explains a lot about many Democrats that I know... One of the commenters said that because Trump can't even protect himself, how is he going to protect the population? I find that very strange. I don't expect the government to "protect me", I think people should protect themselves. Why do you want/need an overbearing government to protect you? It just seems strange to me. I think this mentality explains quite a bit, especially as it relates to RKBA.
 
#22 ·
My two cents worth:
Trump is not perfect, OK I said it.
Biden has been and always will be a disaster to gun rights.
This is not the lesser of two evils thing.
Biden and the current Democratic Party is the EVIL.
Any gun owner who votes for Biden is a total fool.
The virus it totally China's fault, and the virus is what wrecked the economy and created so much hardship in America today.
Trump is speeding the recovery, not hindering the recovery as the Democrats and the Media is doing.
The cities that are burning night after night, who is the party in charge in all of them?
How many riots have gotten out of control in Republican controlled areas?
The choice is clear; if you Love America and Freedom vote Trump, if you like the idea of Socialism vote for Biden.
 
#23 ·
Republicans are just as tyrannical as the democrats, most gun owners just give them a pass because they wont actively take away gun rights but will do so passively. Tyranny can come from big business and big government, and people always vote out of fear instead of with their actual ideals. The two party system has also turned a representative republic into a monopoly where people are forced to vote against their ideals if they dont tote the party line. Trump is just as bad as biden, and im tired of voting for rich elites from the coast who have no idea what the common person lives or values. I aint voting for biden, and I sure as hell aint voting for trump. I'll vote for someone who represents me, and if people think im wasting my vote the other parties need to put out better policies and candidates worth voting for.
 
#32 ·
Beto O'Rourke is one of three Democrats, along with Sens. Kamala Harris of California and Cory Booker of New Jersey to support mandatory buybacks for certain guns. Other Democrats would make them illegal but not require them to be bought back by the government.
I believe this was headline news for about 1 day, thanks CNN for continued crappy work. Beto is currently tagged to be the gun "Czar" for Biden/ Harris if elected. I think if gun confiscation comes, it will be as a series of red flag laws.. thousands of tiny cuts. That is until someone stands their ground and then all heck will break loose. Voting for big government to take care of you cradle to grave is a sad commentary on what America was.
I grew up in that America and feel sorry for anyone who didn't or has lost touch with that.
Riding the Trump train, Tony
 
#34 ·
I will vote "against" President Trump. Gun rights, part of huge number of wider issues. Factually, he's done almost nothing positive for gun rights. He has done irrepraable harm to our nation. His late, faltering, tepid Covis response highlighting. But far wider, he has highly jeprodised our international friendsips and alliances. He has removed our nation from first prominance in Western World leadership. He has weakened such as NATO and his strange waivering, controversial style of "leadership" has abandoned and shocked our allies historically most important to making/keeping our nation strong. He highlights the "cult of personality".
Far worse, he leads a Republican Party of too many "yes men", abandoning virtues and values, bowing, supporting such leadership.
Speaking here: NRA Life Member since 1958, currently Patron member. Now having no use for NRA leadership either.
Gun collecting fun and enjoyment has been central to my life. But I am my brother's keeper and though living well myself & family, my heart and thoughts with the many Americans without health insurance, without unemployment safety net, living here and fighting in uniform for our nation as now being deported aliens. I cannot abandon my own principles and belief in God, even at the cost of my guns.
I neither condemn those that disagree with me/my principles. Disagreement both healthy and the 'right' fundamental to our liberty. But as to "respect", I also can't with those who make gun rights 'the single most important element in their American lives.
I thank God so much for what I have, but also am with firm belief that I have a responsibity to the many less fortunate.

God Bless us all, good folks whatever belief. Please, if you condemn me, consider my opinions/beliefs in the name of a better life for all Americans... And my brothers across the World!
Best & Stay Safe!
John
 
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I will vote "against" President Trump. Gun rights, part of huge number of wider issues. Factually, he's done almost nothing positive for gun rights. He has done irrepraable harm to our nation. His late, faltering, tepid Covis response highlighting. But far wider, he has highly jeprodised our international friendsips and alliances. He has removed our nation from first prominance in Western World leadership. He has weakened such as NATO and his strange waivering, controversial style of "leadership" has abandoned and shocked our allies historically most important to making/keeping our nation strong. He highlights the "cult of personality".
Far worse, he leads a Republican Party of too many "yes men", abandoning virtues and values, bowing, supporting such leadership.
Speaking here: NRA Life Member since 1958, currently Patron member. Now having no use for NRA leadership either.
Gun collecting fun and enjoyment has been central to my life. But I am my brother's keeper and though living well myself & family, my heart and thoughts with the many Americans without health insurance, without unemployment safety net, living here and fighting in uniform for our nation as now being deported aliens. I cannot abandon my own principles and belief in God, even at the cost of my guns.
I neither condemn those that disagree with me/my principles. Disagreement both healthy and the 'right' fundamental to our liberty. But as to "respect", I also can't with those who make gun rights 'the single most important element in their American lives.
I thank God so much for what I have, but also am with firm belief that I have a responsibity to the many less fortunate.

God Bless us all, good folks whatever belief. Please, if you condemn me, consider my opinions/beliefs in the name of a better life for all Americans... And my brothers across the World!
Best & Stay Safe!
John
Unfortunately it will be because of people of your mindset that we will loose our God given 2nd amendment rights.

BTW NATO is America, all Trump is asking for is for these so called allies to step up and pat their fair share. What's wrong with that?

Voting for Biden/Harris will only accelerate Left wing communist control of our country, something I want to avoid at all cost.

If Freedom and Liberty mean anything to anyone of this forum then please vote for President trump.
4 more years!


 
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