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So for those of you who are voting for the Democrats who said they want to take away your semi-auto weapons:

1) Do you only collect bolt action guns and revolvers or do you think they are really not going to try to take your semi-autos? 2) Are you are willing to sacrifice your RKBA (at least part of it) to get other progressive policy?
 

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I'd do pretty much anything to get rid of a wanna be dictator and mafia-lite kingpin.
He was a democrat a few years ago and is on the record with his views on confiscating firearms without going to court first.
Dude is a con man, is quite famous for grifting and if you have confidence in him, well brother you have been conned.
 

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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "
(c) Benjamin Franklyn in 1755 on behalf of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the colonial governor.
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Becuase the 2nd has been so well protected and advanced under the current administration.....

From the LA Times....Not exactly a Conservative Friendly Newspaper....

Trump and Biden on guns: Far apart on policy and perspective
The Democrats inevitably favor tighter restrictions on gun purchases and ownership, believing that the constraints will help prevent mass shootings and drive down more everyday gun violence. The Republicans inevitably prefer greater liberty for gun owners and users, arguing that even modest restrictions infringe on a fundamental right of self-defense and hobby ownership guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment. Rarely in the twain do the parties meet. ]
The Trump administration loosened regulations on the export of firearms and the online publication of technical information about guns, and it reversed an Obama-era rule restricting gun purchases by people deemed by the Social Security Administration to be mentally unable to manage their affairs.
After a massacre at a Parkland, Fla., high school in 2018, Trump suggested arming schoolteachers who were “adept” with guns as a response to school shootings. Polls showed most teachers opposed the concept, which was also opposed by teachers unions.
After Democrats took control of the House of Representatives in 2018 and introduced legislation to expand background checks and more tightly regulate gun sales and transfers, the Trump administration threatened to veto the measures if they came to the president’s desk.
Trump’s personal talk on guns has sometimes drifted away from his administration’s walk.
Trump expressed an openness to expanding background checks and so-called red flag laws that allow the government to take guns away from a person deemed to be at higher risk of committing violence.
Apart from a narrow ban on niche “bump stock” accessories used by a gunman to increase his rate of fire in the 2017 Las Vegas massacre, Trump did not take action and has resumed bashing Democrats for pursuing tighter regulations, earning plaudits from gun activists.
“You promised to defend the 2nd Amendment and stand tall for the constitutional freedoms in which our members believe,” the NRA said in a July endorsement of Trump’s reelection. “You have delivered on your promise in extraordinary ways.” In a recent interview with a Catholic TV station, Trump declared that “I saved the 2nd Amendment. If I wasn’t here, you wouldn’t have a 2nd Amendment.”
Biden supports universal background checks and a ban on the manufacture and sale of semiautomatic rifles and higher-capacity magazines, along with tighter regulation or the buyback of those weapons currently in private hands.
He also supports banning online sales of weapons and ammunition and requiring background checks for people buying gun kits or 3D printer codes for guns.


A vote for the Democrats is a vote to remove the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. That is just a fact.
 

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Some people just need to be told what to do. The church is the guide line for some. The Union is the guide line for some. Family tradition for others. Many people are single issue voters. It is what it is. I voted for Trump and knew what he was. Still better than voting communist. Actually, he turned out better than I thought he would. If you voted for Trump and will not this time, I guess you were just stupid the first time around.
 

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I'd do pretty much anything to get rid of a wanna be dictator and mafia-lite kingpin.
He was a democrat a few years ago and is on the record with his views on confiscating firearms without going to court first.
Dude is a con man, is quite famous for grifting and if you have confidence in him, well brother you have been conned.
I have confidence that President Trump isn't beholden to the DNC. That is good enough, since the other choice is somebody who IS beholden to the DNC...
 

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40% plus of any gun collections values should have been ammo since Clinton!
they will go after ammo statistically easier, than house to house warrant searches when law enforcements national guard, military families knows others knocking on parents, families, friends doors in other states...no that wouldn't work in my humble opinion<><Dan
 
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.22lr might be the currency of the future.....

The Democratic party is not at all today, what they were in the Clinton era and before.....its gone criminally insane and hateful.

Being "Pro Gun Democrat " is almost oxymoron, with a heavy emphasis on 'moron'.

Giving a vote to a person who wants to restrict your Rights is down right Stupid.........and thats ANY Right, like owning guns, Fair trial, Voting, Free Speech, Free assembly, Free religion, etc, etc, etc....which of those Rights do you think they will work on after taking guns??


Perhaps......
Freedom of Speech, but watch what you say? No offending anyone, now.....

A trial without facing an accuser, or perhaps assumed guilty until proven innocent? Because the mob decides whos to be charged in court....

100% voter turn out and the favorite won , again, because his is the only name on the ballots....

You can own guns.......but only those made in black powder era.....because the Revolution was fought with such....

"....Curfew at 7 pm, immediately after work......" ....... as Socialist Boss's like to say....

On the face of it all, I decide my vote by those who will leave my Rights in place, if not enhance them, and employ them as servents with some temporary power.

Never trust a politician.
 

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Becuase the 2nd has been so well protected and advanced under the current administration.....
I keep hearing people spout that B.S. mindlessly. I guess it's the cool thing to say for some people, IDK. The only anti 2a thing that he has done is to have the DOJ review rules which led to bump stocks being re-classified as machine guns--even though they do not meet the legal definition of a machine gun. Since Trump has been in office, I've not feared any of my 2a rights being taken away. Ammo was plentiful and cheap. Rifles were plentiful and cheap. Parts were cheap. Very basic ARs were available for less than $300. I couldn't even sell some things at a good price because everything was so cheap. When the 2a is under attack, stuff isn't cheap. We had eight years of attacks on the 2A under Obama. Almost daily, for his last four years, he was on TV pressing for some type of gun restrictions. I couldn't even feel any sympathy for victims of what seemed like monthly public shootings as I knew what was going to follow immediately after--24/7 "news" coverage pressing for firearm restrictions (which went on every day for a month or more). There also seemed to be a heck of a lot more "mass shootings" under Obummer.
So, Trump "said some things". He says a lot of things. Big deal. Except for the bump stock ban, he's stayed out of the way of firearm owners. You can also blame the courts for the ban as well since they can't seem to interpret the law the way it's written-- “any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.”
 

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and how exactly is trump any better? If it's all the same, except the incumbent is going to wreck the economy and give himself the virus he denied existed, then yeah I am going for the other guy.
Since you've been living under a rock, the economy was doing great until the left used a virus to wreck it for political gain.
 

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Anybody who is actually a gun owner and enthusiast has to vote for Trump if they care about preserving their firearm rights for the next 4+ years. Anybody who doesn't is a fool, idiot, anti 2a, or they really aren't into firearms that much. The Dems have repeatedly stated their intentions--it's on video. They can lie during debates, but their actions don't match the words they speak when they're trying to court non-leftist voters (nor the words they speak when they're in their natural habitat). After reading a bunch of nonsense, I'm not sure if some people's memory can store more than a month or two of memories. Again, the past three years have seen dirt cheap gun prices and ammunition. Last year, I bought a Sig 365 for $350 (after rebates and discounts). Gander Outdoors had Sig suppressors dirt cheap as they were eliminating them from their inventory. I bought an Aimpoint Pro for $189 for Gander when they were liquidating their inventory at their store. My friend bought a Vortex Razor for $750. You don't get prices like that when the 2A is under attack. Sorry, you don't.
 

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and how exactly is trump any better?
Maybe not "Better" but hes doing the job,.....and the US is still here,...... and so far the most vetted POTUS ever.

Biden has a looooong record of stomping our Constitutional rights.........
and Trump has not.......

Fact is ,Trump landing on the scene of politics remind me of being a teenager....
He showed up to the Republican Party, unwanted and uninvited, no one could make him leave..brought a 1/2 gallon of Southern comfort, gave out drinks and, picked a fight or two, kicking butt with a smile.... and later, left with all the good looking drunk chicks at 2 am, all them laughing all the way to his room...

Biden has been a professional politician since I was a kid.

Biden not only voted for the 2001 Patriot Act, he, on many occasions, claimed credit for writing it

He has stated repeatedly, he would, for example, propose legislation to prohibit online sales of firearms, ammunition, and gun parts. which includes a mandatory buyback,He would also give states funds to enact red flag laws, which allows family members and law enforcement to restrict access to guns to those deemed a risk. He would also propose legislation prohibiting anyone convicted of a hate crime from purchasing a gun. To restrict the ability to quickly stockpile weapons, Biden would restrict the number of firearms an individual may purchase to one per month.

Last Oct, he bragged, "I'm the only one on this stage who has taken on the NRA and beat them twice. We were able to get assault weapons off the streets for 10 years. The way to deal with AR-15s and assault weapons is to do what we did with machine guns. You must register that weapon. I'm the only one that moved to make sure that we could not have a magazine that had more than 10 rounds in it. Go after the gun manufacturers and take back the exemption they have of not being able to be sued."

Biden is the first VP to go two full terms, along with POTUS Obama, with no victory, swamped in 2 wars.
ISIS rose up under Obama/Bidens watch and we were full steam ahead in invading Syria....and then came Trump.


And the list gos on, but its clear there is no good future for the 2nd A under the current democratic presidential nominations.....Harris isnt any better, she said at the Dem nomination race last Oct " "Upon being elected (president), I will give the United States Congress 100 days to get their act together and have the courage to pass reasonable gun safety laws. And if they fail to do it, then I will take executive action," ......given Biden wrestles with senility, this isn’t that much of a stretch.
 

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and how exactly is trump any better? If it's all the same, except the incumbent is going to wreck the economy and give himself the virus he denied existed, then yeah I am going for the other guy.
so txsporter
from the socialist points:
what's will your selected party do concerning guns weeks after the election?
humbly asking, ive not meet many socialists' in w.v.a.?
not exposed nor educated enough to know the insider working of such things?
that is if I understand what your statement means?
if I'm wrong interrupting and your just kidding I apologize? <><Dan
 

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Don Juan Wins owned many guns prior to his drop to the highest rung on the ladder, he was a Concealed carry holder in New York, as I understand, but now hes past carrying a weapon.
Still, it shows some responsibilty and sense of proper use and ownership of self defence arms sitting at the POTUS desk
POTUS fights on many unseen fronts;
I imagine Its possible Trump's had himself infected with Wuhan virus just so he could cure himself with Hydroxychloroquine and zink, just to prove Dems wrong for the hell of it...

I wouldn't put it past him........his leadership has many twists
 
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