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Perhap's Germany's more reviered COL. The Wehrmatch Oberst almost Killed Hitler! I would ask does anyone have a real Photo of COL. Claus Von Stauffenberg who almost saved Europe a year early. I look forward to the coming Film Valkyrie, I can't stand Tom Cruse he is a Jerk, but want to see the Story. I recall hearing a Speech Winston Churchhill made praseing these Men who almost pulled it off. I am glad they made this Film, the World must alway's remember Von Stauffenberg. Thank's for any Photo someone post, here. Paul
 

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Here is a Photo of him with one of Cruise to compare from the Film. Paul
I understand how Mr Cruise can simulate the lack of an arm - a noticeable feature of the late Von Stauffenberg, but I am really looking forward to seeing how the height-impaired Cruise can pretend to be almost a foot taller.

IMO, Will Smith or the greatly-missed John Candy would have made a far more convincing von Stauffenberg than the dwarf Cruise.

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Well, it worked out very well the other way around, for the six-foot Peter O'Toole playing Lawrence of Arabia.

There is a little-known fact about von Stauffenbourg. His life was almost certainly saved by the eminent German surgeon Sauerbruch, to whom Col. La Garde, one of those who designed the Chicago stockyard trials which led to the .45 ACP, often refers in his book "Gunshot Injuries". Sauerbruch is also on record as having treated Rudolf Hess for a bullet wound sustained in Romania during the First World War. That is the wound which caused scandal, and much conjecturing that Churchill fielded a substitute Hess while in custody. There have been recent claims that the scarring might, in contrast to what was claimed, have become invisible by Hess's old age. But they didn't use Sauerbruch for anything trivial.

I've often thought that if they had given a capable Austrian WW1 PFC a bomb, and said "see nobody in that building gets out", he'd have made a better job of it than they did the other way around. German staff training was a pretty esoteric business.
 

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The eye-patch that Cruise is wearing is the most convincing part of the still, IMO.

It deserves an Oscar by itself.

You will note how the image is conveniently lacking a view of Mr Cruise's right side. ;)

I noted that the real man had lost an arm - this is not strictly true - he lost his right hand, and according to Wikipedia, 'his left eye...and the fourth and fifth fingers of his left hand.'

Even so, notwithstanding his obvious bravery as a soldier, he was clearly different from most of the rest of us, part from his great height, something that must be very difficult for the dwarf Mr Cruise to 'act', and must have been so since birth.

I've met many folks in my life, but I've never met anybody with five fingers.

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I make that three fingers left, assuming he started with the human body as usually constituted - although Anne Boleyn and the inhabitants of one western Arabian village tend to have twelve.

Ah, but is he the most revered? Inn some quarters, but Germany is in some ways a more right-wing place than it likes to appear. A 52-year-old German friend of mind, third-generation revolutionary socialist at least while young, points out that her grandfather was murdered for it on the last day of the war, but she merely has a permanently stiffened thumb from being improperly handcuffed in her student days.

Hans Helmutt Kirst's most excellent novel set against the officers' plot, "The Night of the Generals", containst excerpts from the following articles in the army's magazine, by a staff captain to a general who evaded involvement at the time:

From "Officer and Reich", 1944:

"... It fills us front-line soldiers with profound indignation to see defensive victories which have been won with the blood of our comrades placed in jeopardy. An ambitious and unprincipled clique of un-German, treacherous and reactionary elements..."

From "Officer and People", 1954:

",,,deserves our deepest respect. It was an act that enabled us to raise the flag of honour once more. We stand profoundly moved, before the great dead of that day, men answerable only to conscience, and the dictates of the heart..."

From "Officer and State", 1961:

",,,there are events in history whose distinguishing feature is their uniqueness. They are, by definition, unrepeatable.,,

Even though their ranks included some whose motives were not, to say the least, unequivocal...

...forced to conclude that though the men of 20th July merit respect, they should not be held up heedlessly and irresponsibly as an example. The young officer of today should be deeply conscious of this. All that need concern him is what we in this country have always felt to be the essence of military tradition and the inviolable duty of the soldier: unquestioning obedience."

From 1944 to 1954 is about what you would expect. But the change from 1954 to 1961 is interesting. I think 1954 gets it about right, with just a trace of 1961. You wouldn't want an army to do it often.

The British General Carton de Wiart, of Belgian nationality, was also missing an eye and a hand, and the rest of him was pretty comprehensively knocked about. Besides military service, he seems to have been an intrepid and accident-prone sportsman. But he was recaptured in Italy after walking more than a hundred miles in an escape attempt, in his sixties. I think it was probably the description that got him.
 

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COL (Oberst i. G.) Von Stauffenberg, give him that much. I will probably go see it, I haven't been to the movies in years, and in watching the previews on YouTube I thought they did a very good job in getting actors who look like the real people they portray.
 

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I'm not a great fan of Cruise, but I actually enjoyed this flick, heck even my wife enjoyed it and she usually won't watch war movies.

Being it was filmed on location, they really did do a good job of it. If you like researching and movies about historical events give it a try.
 

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Claus von Stauffenberg came from a Catholic aristocratic family. He was a tall, educated and elegant man. Tom Cruise is a short self-infatuated egostistical Scientologist who would have been more suited to play the role of the unstable Adolf Hitler. Just add a small mustache to the black hair and no need for makeup. Coupled with Cruise's labile behavior you have instant Führer! Mein Gott! You could have even added a love scene with Eva Braun before the shots were fired! Liam Neeson would have been my choice to play Claus von Stauffenberg. A classy Oscar winner who looks more like von Stauffenberg. The casting department definitely ruined this movie.

I had to laugh when I was watching the "behind the scenes" moments of Valkyrie on the History Channel recently where Tom Cruise acted like he was deeply moved by von Stauffenberg's convictions and actions in one of his interviews. His sincerity had the same type of hollowness as exhibited by James Cameron when he received the Oscar for directing Titanic. In his acceptance speech Cameron asked the audience to pay honor to those who died on the Titanic. This was immediately followed by a "let's party" shout after he accepted his award. Cruise looked just as fake and is an insult to those who tried to depose Hitler. Hollywood has definitely gone down the tubes. I will pass on this one. Two Thumbs Down!
 

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I might point out that the people who sought to kill hitler, did not do so to save Europe, they were trying to save Germany. I believe that hitler was one of the best "generals" for the Allies, and he helped shorten the war by his ineptitude. This statement in no way should undermine the valour of those who tried to remove him, but I suspect that if they had succeeded, it would have been a longer war.
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ofcourse... nice try hollywood. 2 hours to explain the action and all characters is not possible. sooo i knew that going in, I guess well maybe if it inspires people to research into the actual matter ,bravo(kinda of like the history channel.) Why was Peter Sellers cast as Hitler?
 

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I thought this was an excellent movie. I felt it was refreshing to see a WWII movie that didn't include any Americans or Allies. And whether or not I like Cruise was besides the point because of the human value shown in the film. I also got a big kick out of the historical representation of German intelligence staff and procedure. I came away from this film with a deeper incite to the German people and the human condition..
 
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