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Hi guys...

I picked up an SKS at a local auction.

Appears to me to be a Chi-com .mil SKS - no import marks, lots of jungle-rot underneath cosmo-gone-to-varnish.

Pics are here - I'd welcome and appreciate any input you may have...
 

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Not sure if I've ever seen a Vietnam bringback that is packed in cosmoline. Suggests that it was preserved and packed away, later imported, and missed the import stamped. Or check very carefully near the muzzle. CAI import marks can be extremely small, lightly struck, and discreet.

Well used and worn before it was greased up.
 

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Look carefully at the shots of the inside receiver, bolt and bbl - it's got damn near ZERO wear...

There are no marks of any kind - I've gone over this thing in intimate detail.

All APPARENT wear is external - which makes me think "jungle rot"...

Also, the stock's not painted - it SEEMS to be burned. Note the shots on the forend - some significant wood appears to have been burned away...
 

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I have no doubt that this rifle is a Vietnam bring back. Please be gentle in cleaning it. Soak the metal parts in solvent and wipe it down with an oily rag. That's all you need to do. Congrats! Nice piece. I like it.
 

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I have no doubt that this rifle is a Vietnam bring back. Please be gentle in cleaning it. Soak the metal parts in solvent and wipe it down with an oily rag. That's all you need to do. Congrats! Nice piece. I like it.
Would you please be so kind as to detail why you believe this? I'm trying to learn!

I also forgot to mention that the only markings I found in a thorough search of the rifle were:
* The "triangle 26"/3 Chinese Characters/SN#
* What appears to be a "Copyright" symbol
* A "N" or "Z" and a "dot" on front end of rec. in same pic
* A "6" (or "9"?) near a "stake" or "chisel" mark(?)

That's it - other than the other serial-number markings on Stock, Mag, bolt & carrier, & the FCG.

Note also the "ding" in the stock... I think it looks like a bullet-strike, will test with a .223 bullet next time I drag it out...

It also seems like it's been burned some... note the missing, burnt-looking wood on both ends of the stock - at the nose and butt-plate...

Basically... I soaked it in diesel and scrubbed with a nylon brush or (where necessary) with a soft brass/bronze fine-bristled one. SOME spots I had no choice but to use some "gumout" carb cleaner to get the funk out of spots even bamboo skewer-points couldn't reach, but afterward I soaked in diesel to get some oil back into the steel... I then saturated it with silicone spray ("Pro-long") as a rust-preventive, let it soak then wiped dry with blue "shop rag" paper towels.

I think my next steps will be to cut off the bayonet lug, front sight and a couple of inches of barrel. I can then thread it for a fake can, and drill and tap it for a scope before I do a tiger-stripe gun-coat job on it. Probably use bedliner paint on the stock until my shernic bullpup kit is ready-then I'll use my dremel-tool to hack out the receiver so it can use AK mags.

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I kid, I kid...

DON'T HAVE A COW, MAN! ;)

I really DO want to do a shernic conversion, including milling off the bolt "ears" so the mags will drop free, but will sacrifice either a Yugo or Norinco (both run-o-the-mill junkers) to the project... Why? I LOVE the SKS for what it is - a surprisingly accurate, dead-nuts reliable, cheap firearm - but would LOVE to be able to do a good job of modernizing one to see what it's really capable of doing!

Plus - as a side-not o

As previously noted, I think this is a piece of history that deserves preservation. I'm going to TRY to have the stock repaired by a guy I know who considers such work a labor of love - and can usually make the repair invisible... If he won't volunteer to do it, I'll most likely leave it as-is...

I'm also going to TRY to find out the rifle's history, and document it as much as I can... I live in a VERY rural area, and the auction-house is right down the road from me... I'm pretty sure if they won't tell me who the seller was, they'll at least contact them for me and pass along my message asking them to contact ME.

I'm betting the rifle belonged to someone's Dad and they just saw it as something old and stinky (it sure was!) and not worth anything to them... Hopefully I'll be able to make them understand why I care, and if nothing else I'll get a letter saying "It was my Dad's rifle he brought home from VN" or similar...

Wish me luck!
 

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Is that not a Russian rear sight?

Also, is that stock broken in two?
SURE IS...:mad Don't know how I missed it before, but when I pressed down to re-install the FCG, it came apart at what were - in hindsight - obvious pre-existing cracks... As mentioned above, I have hope for an invisible repair...
 

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Those were common in the 70s even here in central flyover. I have owned three and still have two of them. I knew the vet that brought one of them home. He sold it at a local gunshop and I traded for it. But he died before I got to ask him if he still had the bring back papers. All of this was before 85 and there were no other SKSs imported yet. Most of them were not in the best of shape. After 1970 some like new ones started to show up at shows they were said to be brought back from Cambodia.
 

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Looks more like water damage flood or kept in wet shed or basement?


+1., no real signs of wear or use. Looks like it may have been in a fire, accident or shipping damage incident. Still with cosmoline in the action etc. No internal wear pattern from use.
If it is a bringback it must be one from a cache that was still grease packed, then brought back to the USA and never cleaned or oiled or inspected for 40 years.
Dunno., I am more skeptical on the Vietnam provenance based on the condition, cosmoline, and other damage that does not appear in conjunction with wear or use. Interesting piece..
 

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note the missing, burnt-looking wood on both ends of the stock
I've noted the missing wood, I note too the very shallow fullers, washed out look to the serial number in the wood and the way too smooth look of the whole stock/handguard. Theres too much "meat" missing from the wood, it all points to a heavy handed sanding job to my eyes. Jon
 

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I'm betting bringback. Has pitting in all the common spots, also consistent with the wet & humid jungle. Looks neat. Do Not fix that stock! Leave as is.. Sell it as is and put the proceeds toward another rifle to fix up.. Great piece, leave alone...
 

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I may have an explanation, possibly. On May 1, 1970 elements of the 2nd Brigade,including the 1-5 Battalion of the 1st Cavalry
Division invaded Cambodia to attack the NVA 7th Division. They found and captured a major and extremely large NVA support center
used to supply weapons into Viet Nam. There were many under ground storage bunkers and above ground warehouse type buildings.
Truck loads of brand new crated Chinese SKS were eventually loaded onto trucks and taken to some where back in VN. A lot of
brand new in grease SKS were pulled out for souvenirs.
I just compared these pics to pics I have from the vet who brought one of those from this capture back. It is totally like new
as it was out of the crate. He also has all three sets of original paperwork for proof. Here is what I find a bit interesting.

OP has Carbine S/N of 11,419,925, a rifle from this cache was 11,317,961. I under stand 1000's of SKS that were probably at one time
to go to the VC were in storage there in Cambodia. And they were all in grease. Makes me wonder a bit because of those S/N's.

On this gun, I think out side of it is because of neglect most likely. But, never the less it could be a bring back.
 
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