Originally posted by Coogan
VKT Serial Number Survey
I am trying to collect data on Finn applied serials to receivers. I am starting with VKT rifles.
What I am looking for is data on ALL VKT rifles. Specifically, I need:
1. Model
2. Barrel Date
3. Serial on Barrel (if you like, last 2 not needed)
4. Serial on receiver (same as above)
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer
6. Is receiver serial importer added?
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? (to include x'd out ones)
8. Comments
Now, I know not everyone will be able to tell if the serial number on the receiver is importer marked or Finn marked. If you are unsure, make a comment to that effect.
Also, please only post VKT data. I know there are SAKO rifles with VKT serials on the receiver, that will be a survey for a later date.
Here is my example:
1. M91
2. 1940
3. 02159 (or 021xx)
4. 02159 (or 021xx)
5. Remington, no date
6. No
7. Only 02159
8. Top flat of receiver planed to remove Imperial Eagle
Kaiserkong
1. M39 VKT
2. 1942
3. 48949
4. 48949
5. 1900 Izzy
6. Importer or Finn?, I'm not sure.. both serials are blued (not electropencil nor dot matrix)
7. Serial # 49601 is X'd out below current serial
8. Rifle is a postwar refurb with all parts looking blued (except bolt ofcourse) and original but repaired war-time stock.
Harvo
1. M39VKT
2. 1942
3. 55694
4. 55694
5. 33 Izzy
6. no
7. no
8. This rifle has not been refurbed. All parts match no electric pencil.
Nobby
1. M39 VKT
2. 1941
3. 29387
4. 29387
5. 1918/1920 Tula
6. I think it is Finn, both are blued and stamping looks the same but not sure.
7. Only sn 29387
8. Post-war refurb, bluing 100% with repaired wartime stock. All matching except buttplate (no numbers) and floorplate (#3377). Receiver tang marked 918r w/ Tula hammer on bottom (under wood), marked 20 w/ upside down Tula hammer on top.
azdoug
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 52140
4. 52140
5. 1894 Izhevsk
6. No
7. Yes- 12780 x'd out
8. Imperial eagle removed
GoShoot
1. M91
2. 1941
3. 15718
4. 15718
5. 1894 Izhevsk
6. no
7. yes, 98117 crossed out
8. Imperial eagle intact on reciever flat
capnduane
1-M39 VKT
2-1942
3-51217
4-51217
5-none
6-no
7-no
8- eagle planed off, Tula hammer marked bolt and parts, serial# on bolt knob, no serial# on buttplate.
Vaarok
1. M-91 VKT
2. 1940
3. 06585
4. 06585
5. '96 Tula
6. No
7. No
8. Still has imperial eagle on reciever, but hex face surfaces had been planed crossways to remove pitting. Bolt is 7906
1. M-91 VKT
2. 1940
3. 03572
4. 03572
5. 1905 Sessy
6. No
7. No
8. Bolt serial 7906, just like my other rifle, and in same font. Tang has small "NI" mark next to date, albeit with cyrillic reversed N. Top of tang has a numeral six.
bdgfate
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 29597
4.(same as above)
5. 1918 Izhevsk
6. No (appears to match font of other VKT numbered receivers and is old stamping based on viewing stamp under extreme magnification.)
7. No, it's all matching #'s (FP and bolt ground and renumbered, Buttplate ground--no renumber).
8. Receiver retains Soviet Crest, Barrel is "early type" based on http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinBarrel.htm Has an interesting "flat" crown on muzzle. Original finish, not reworked/reblued. Wartime stock with brass shims.
Got out my 1932 VKT M27s. Both have importer-added serial numbers on the receiver. It's the old style, hand stamped CAI version.
47Norton
Here are the three that I have
1. Mod 91
2. 1941
3. 185874.
4. same
5. uk
6. no
7. no
8. #5 on R. rec. flat.
1. 39
2. 1944
3. 71435
4. same
5. no mark
6. yes
7. no
8. well used square finger stock
1. 39
2. 1942
3. 57542
4. yes
5. 1911, Tula
6. no
7. no
8. round finger stock
Shyquestor
1. M-39
2. 1944
3. NK
4. 6253x
5. 189X Sesty
6. Faintly on barrel (cannot even reead it)
7. NK
8.
M240G
First one
1. Model: M91
2. Barrel Date: 1940
3. Serial on Barrel: 31969
4. Serial on receiver: 31969
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer: 1914 Izhevsk
6. Is receiver serial importer added? Do not know, stamped left side of receiver near front.
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? No
8. Comments: Imperial Eagle still on receiver
Second one
1. Model: M39
2. Barrel Date: 1944
3. Serial on Barrel: 67601
4. Serial on receiver 67601
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer: 1916 Izhevsk
6. Is receiver serial importer added? I'd say yes as it is a dot print simliar to the new CIA import stamp. On receiver top flat. Readable from right side.
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? No
8. Comments: No eagle
briarcliff
1. m91
2. 1942
3. 290xx
4. Same
5. Iz. 1904
6. Yes
7. 47040 on bolt crossed out
1. m39
2. 1942
3. 466xx
4. Same
5
6. Tula 1895
7. No.
MTS
1. Model 39
2. Barrel Date: 1944
3. S/N Barrell 71902
4. S/N Receiver 71902 (importer dot type)
5. Tang Date unknown
6. Yes. Dot.
7. Mult. #'s no (bolt, buttplate, magazine unnumbered)
8. Eagles no
MikeG
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 61956
4. 61956 importer's dot matrix font
5. 1895 Tula
6. yes - dot matrix style
7. only on bolt and floorplate (Finnish matching)
8. Sako stock, round finger joints
rmeron
1. Mdl 39
2. 1941
3. 42015
4. same
5. 1916 Izzy
6. The serial # is stamped and looks like it was done by the Finns.
7. No
8. The receiver is a little pitted,the bolt and magazine are numbered
to receiver and barrel,no Eagle that I can see.
ThreeJs
1. M91
2. 1940
3. 08069
4. same as above
5. Pre 1928 Tula
6. No
7. No
8. There is no markings on the top flat of the receiver
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 61162
4. 41817
5. Dunno. Will update when I get the nerve to tear it down.
6. No. but there is also a importer serial on the receiver that matches the barrel
7. No
8.
LCJr
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 69700
4. 69700(dot matrix, early CAI import)
5. 1914 Sestroryetsk
6. Yes
7. Last 4 digits on bolthead. No serial # on buttplate or magazine.
8. All top receiver markings removed. Looks to be by machining, excepting the importer added serial # of course.
carbonman
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 480XX
4. 480XX
5. On receiver all I have is seral# and a number stamped below serial# which is #3562. seral number match on barrel is SA, VKT, D, 1942.
6. Is 3562 an importer stamp?
7. NO
8.
stantheboltactionman
1.M39
2.1941
3.2890X
4.2890X
5.1904 Sestroretsk
6. no
7. no
8. not refurbed,75% thinned bluing,nice figured wartime stock.
crossed cannons "L" marked.
1. M39
2. 1942
3.4640X
4.4640X
5.1914 Ishevsk.
6. no
7. no
8. Unissued wartime stock, 98% bluing, refurbed. "L" marked stock.
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 7007X
4. 7007X
5. 1908 IZZY
6. Yes
7. no
8. 100% bluing,refurb,Unissued postwar stock with square finger joints.
combat32
1.M91
2.1940
3.05804
4.Same
5.1910 Izhevsk
6.I think it is a Finn number
7.No
8.Reciever eagle peened, D and SA marked
skywarp989
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 57694
4. 57694
5. Undated Chatellerault
6. No
7. No
8. Postwar stock, heavily used after refurb
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 41625
4. 41625
5. 1917 Tula (I think)
6. No
7. No
8. Refurbed SAKO-marked stock
sjohnson
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 61462
4. 61462
5. 1915 Sestroretsk.
6. Yes
7. Yes
8. 3-piece wartime stock, heavy wear.
Dutch Mosin
1. VKT M39
2. 1942
3. 48005
4. 48005
5. 1906 Ishevsk
6. NO
7. 8464 on the bolt handle
8. Three piece wartime stock. Bolt from various arsenals.
johnlee
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 37434
4. 37434
5. 1909 Tula
6. don't think so, blued over
7. no
8. refurbed Sako wartime stock, upper reciever flat machined down but a bit of Imperial eagle still visible
ThomasR
1.m91
2.1940
3.02xx 4 digit #
4.same
5.HEX DON'T KNOW
6 NO
7.NO
8.DOUBLE AZF ON RECIEVER.STOCK IS DARK BURNT LOOKING BIRCH I BELIEVE.
28 mosin
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 33531
4. same
5. Tula 1895
6. no
7. no
8. has the early style M39 barrel mentioned on 7.62x54r's site
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 58013
4. same
5. Tula 1898
6. no
7. no
8. Czar's eagle is still on receiver
FinnFanatic
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 39790
4. 39790 Finn marked
5. 1897 Sesty
6. No
7. No
8. Bolt has same serial # as above, but also has lined out serial #
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 50804
4. 50804 Finn marked
5. 917c Tula
6. No
7. No
8. Bolt and magazine match barrel and receiver
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 73142
4. 73142
5. Illegible, but last number is a 3; also pre-1928 Izzy bow/arrow
6. Yes
7. No
8. Bolt matches; Imperial eagle on receiver partially ground
Musick
1. m91
2. 1942
3. 24815
4. 24815
5. tula 1915
6. no
7. only 24815
8. eagle scrubbed
Glengarry
1, M91
2, 1941
3,12783
4,12783
5,Unable to get gun appart at tis stage
6, no
7,no
8 ,Imperial eagle itact on Hex rec
9, Stock disc brass,1Ktr 1 over 140
10, Butt plate nickeled.
LarryR
1. M91
2. 1942
3. 205xx
4. 205xx
5. 1901 Sestroryetsk
6. ?
7. None
8. Samco import has dot matrix markings on barrel and receiver, but receiver serial number is a deep stamping, not dot matrix. Under magnifier, receiver serial number appears to be underneath the finish, but looks can be deceiving in that regard.
1. M91
2. 1942
3. 298xx
4. 298xx
5. 1914 Ishevsk
6. ?
7. None
8. Same comments as above. I don't know who stamped the S/N on the receiver.
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 463xx
4. 463xx
5. 1910 Ishevsk
6. ?
7. none
8. CAI import
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 450xx
4. 450xx
5. don't know, never disassembled
6. ?
7. none
8. Interord dot matrix importer mark near muzzle, receiver S/N is stamped
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 719xx
4. 719xx
5. don't know, never disassembled
6. Yes
7. none
8. Interord dot matrix importer mark near muzzle, receiver S/N is dot matrix also
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 510xx
4. 510xx
5. don't know, never disassembled
6. My guess is no
7. 607xx on lhs of receiver
8. Interord dot matrix importer mark near muzzle, 510xx on receiver is stamped, 607xx on receiver is also stamped. Both stamped receiver numbers show bluing on the bottom of the numbers, while the rest of the receiver has almost no finish, so both receiver serial numbers look old.
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 268xx
4. 268xx
5. 1916 Sestroryetsk
6. ?
7. none
8. Intrac import
Another comment FWIW. I also have a noname M39, 1967, 6-digit barrel serial number. The importer is Inter Ord, the barrel S/N is dot-matrixed on top of the receiver. There is also 474xx stamped on the left flat of the receiver (on the angled flat, not the vertical one), in the same location as the usual stamped number on the other M39's.
RedOne
1. M-39 VKT
2. 1941
3. 337xx
4. 337xx
5. 1916 Sestroryetsk
6. No
7. None
8. Imperial Eagle , 3-piece wartime stock,1 dow repair,not refurbed, stock crossed cannons "L" marked.
Bolt and magazine match barrel and receiver 75% bluing
Charlie Lima
1) M39
2)1944
3)720XX
4)"dot matrix" same number
5)1938 ( bow & arrow "logo" I am not up on codes so I'm not much help on this one)
6) yes (720xx seems to be) & no (see comments)
7) yes
The bottom of the receiver (near recoil lug), barrel (in front of recoil lug), and the stock barrel channel are all 3 stamped with 82xx. The number 36xx is stamped on the left side of the barrel in front of the receiver so as to be under the stock and not visable. The number stamped on the bottom of the receiver is stamped over 2 characters that are no longer recognizable. Bolt knob is stamped with the last 4 digits of the barrel serial number.The cocking piece and the front sight are both stamped with what appears to be either an S or a 5 inside a "cog" for lack of a better term (think "rotary club"). No marks on top flat of receiver other than the "dot matrix" number.
PeterS
1. M91
2. 1941
3. 17466
4. 17466
5. Tula (18)95
6. No
7. Bolt: 11521, 111144 and lined out 157012
8. Top flat of receiver planed to remove Imperial Eagle, most parts are Tula, Barrel with "D"
1. M91
2. 1941
3. 09574
4. 09574
5. Tula (1)906
6. No
7. No
8. Imperial Eagle on the zop flat of the receiver, left sie number 38545 at the wood-line.
Tacdriver66
1. M27
2. 1932
3. 0230
4. no*
5. 1902 Tula.
6. no
7. Matching S/N on the bolt, no other numbers on any other parts.
8. *Only small imperial eagle on receiver no s/n. 98%+ bluing, Stock appears to be un-issued, wartime(round finger joints)stock, "L" marked.
cetracer
1. Model - M39 VKT
2. Barrel Date - 1944
3. Serial on Barrel - 68992
4. Serial on receiver - 68992
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer - 1896 Tula
6. Is receiver serial importer added? - No - early CAI import mark on barrel
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? No
8. Comments - Purchased from WGA in Dec. 2001 - Excellent, in unissued (rebuilt) condition.
rocklock
1. Model - 1891
2. Barrel Date - 1941
3. Serial on Barrel - 09483
4. Serial on receiver - 09483
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer - None
6. Is receiver serial importer added? - No
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? 6960 on left side of receiver
preachere
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 27102
4. 27102
5. 99 Tula
6. No
7. Buttplate has 6-digit serial number faintly visible that doesn't match barrel/receiver; bolt has last 4 matching barrel/receiver; magazine plate has no number. No line-outs anywhere.
8. Wartime stock has crossed cannon/L cartouche and heavy wear on the right grasping groove; rifle is a Tula receiver with various other parts being Tula, Remington bolt connector and triggerguard/magazine, the rest being Izzy. Imperial eagle is intact. Early M39 barrel.
skydawg
1. Model - 1891
2. Barrel Date - 1942
3. Serial on Barrel - 24486
4. Serial on receiver - 24486
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer - None
6. Is receiver serial importer added? - No
7. none
8. VKT and a "D" above the serial
Windstar
1.M39
2.1941
3.37549
4.same
5.1901 Tula
6.Century import same number on left side hex.
7.no
8.VKT and D above receiver serial number. All Tula bolt parts with an Ishevsk trigger. L with crossed cannons on stock.
ASHRN03
1. Model - M39
2. Barrel Date - 1942
3. Serial on Barrel - 455XX
4. Serial on receiver - 455XX
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer - 1910 Izhevsk
6. Is receiver serial importer added? - No
7. Multiple SN? No
8. VKT and a "D" above the barrel SN. Top of the receiver has uniform light grind/file marks on a 20 degree diagonal. Imperial eagle appears stippled out. Round finger groove stock.
rob9700
1)M39
2)1944
3)70916
4)70916
5)Tula 1910
6)No
7)No
8)Still in great shape. Has intact Imperial Crest on Top of Receiver
blasterboy82
CAI M39 29404 Rifle 7.62x54R 2/12/05
Georgia, VT 1941 1920 Tula (Bolt)
VKT
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 29404
4. 29404
5. 1920 Tula
6. no
7. no
8. VG condition stock only arsenal repairs with popsicle repairs on both sides, near the tang, and near the bayonet lug. Odd barrel, correct length and diameter, only never crowned, has "dots" that are around end, between the inside diameter and outside diameter of the muzzle. At first thought it had been re-sleeved.
BabbaOReilly
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 496xx
4. 496xx
5. 1897. Unsure of mfgr.
6. No.
7. No.
8. No imperial markings on receiver. No divot where the eagle would have been removed. Perhaps planed to remove or no such markings.
Beetle Bailey
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 705xx
4. 705xx
5. Chatellerault 1894
6. Yes, CAI dot matrix
7. No, only 705xx
8. Wartime stock with "L" inside crossed-cannons cartouche, blackened rear sight ladder with patina rear sight slide. No evidence of imperial eagle having ever been on top of receiver, only marks on top of receiver are "D" and dot matrix serial number. No ground out marks.
fairlane
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 53792
4. 53792
5. Tula marked 914 Backwards R
6. NO
7. Yes 30133
8. Hex Reciever
martin30
M39 VKT
1942
595XX
595XX ON REC. RAIL IN DOT MATRIX.
1897 TULA
YES TG KNOX TN
NO
Post war refurb with square finger joint stock and 98%bluing. No eagle, has D AND SA MARKS. Excellent condition.
Lightning
1. Mod. 91
2. 1940
3. 162XX
4. 425XX
5. 9/11 nothing else readable
6. no Faded Sn 42531
7. Yes barrel has 2L 6609 Bolt lined out 50555 and last 4 of barrel # on bolt knob.
8. It was not issued after rebuild.
HunterJ4068
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 562xx
4. 562xx
5. Izhevsk, 1906
6. No (probably, looks the same age as the other markings)
7. No, only 562xx
8. Post war stock
friedspam
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 5020x
4. 5020x
5. Remington, no date
6. No
7. No
8. Imperial marking on receiver,war time stock, heal repair, bluing redone, CAI st Alb VT
BoreGrv
1. M91 VKT
2. 1942
3. 20454
4. 20454
5. 95 Tula
6. Not shure
7. Yes
8. Remington Circle R bolt, orginal finnish cartouch stamped stock, top of reciever planed.
VKT Serial Number Survey
I am trying to collect data on Finn applied serials to receivers. I am starting with VKT rifles.
What I am looking for is data on ALL VKT rifles. Specifically, I need:
1. Model
2. Barrel Date
3. Serial on Barrel (if you like, last 2 not needed)
4. Serial on receiver (same as above)
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer
6. Is receiver serial importer added?
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? (to include x'd out ones)
8. Comments
Now, I know not everyone will be able to tell if the serial number on the receiver is importer marked or Finn marked. If you are unsure, make a comment to that effect.
Also, please only post VKT data. I know there are SAKO rifles with VKT serials on the receiver, that will be a survey for a later date.
Here is my example:
1. M91
2. 1940
3. 02159 (or 021xx)
4. 02159 (or 021xx)
5. Remington, no date
6. No
7. Only 02159
8. Top flat of receiver planed to remove Imperial Eagle
Kaiserkong
1. M39 VKT
2. 1942
3. 48949
4. 48949
5. 1900 Izzy
6. Importer or Finn?, I'm not sure.. both serials are blued (not electropencil nor dot matrix)
7. Serial # 49601 is X'd out below current serial
8. Rifle is a postwar refurb with all parts looking blued (except bolt ofcourse) and original but repaired war-time stock.
Harvo
1. M39VKT
2. 1942
3. 55694
4. 55694
5. 33 Izzy
6. no
7. no
8. This rifle has not been refurbed. All parts match no electric pencil.
Nobby
1. M39 VKT
2. 1941
3. 29387
4. 29387
5. 1918/1920 Tula
6. I think it is Finn, both are blued and stamping looks the same but not sure.
7. Only sn 29387
8. Post-war refurb, bluing 100% with repaired wartime stock. All matching except buttplate (no numbers) and floorplate (#3377). Receiver tang marked 918r w/ Tula hammer on bottom (under wood), marked 20 w/ upside down Tula hammer on top.
azdoug
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 52140
4. 52140
5. 1894 Izhevsk
6. No
7. Yes- 12780 x'd out
8. Imperial eagle removed
GoShoot
1. M91
2. 1941
3. 15718
4. 15718
5. 1894 Izhevsk
6. no
7. yes, 98117 crossed out
8. Imperial eagle intact on reciever flat
capnduane
1-M39 VKT
2-1942
3-51217
4-51217
5-none
6-no
7-no
8- eagle planed off, Tula hammer marked bolt and parts, serial# on bolt knob, no serial# on buttplate.
Vaarok
1. M-91 VKT
2. 1940
3. 06585
4. 06585
5. '96 Tula
6. No
7. No
8. Still has imperial eagle on reciever, but hex face surfaces had been planed crossways to remove pitting. Bolt is 7906
1. M-91 VKT
2. 1940
3. 03572
4. 03572
5. 1905 Sessy
6. No
7. No
8. Bolt serial 7906, just like my other rifle, and in same font. Tang has small "NI" mark next to date, albeit with cyrillic reversed N. Top of tang has a numeral six.
bdgfate
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 29597
4.(same as above)
5. 1918 Izhevsk
6. No (appears to match font of other VKT numbered receivers and is old stamping based on viewing stamp under extreme magnification.)
7. No, it's all matching #'s (FP and bolt ground and renumbered, Buttplate ground--no renumber).
8. Receiver retains Soviet Crest, Barrel is "early type" based on http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinBarrel.htm Has an interesting "flat" crown on muzzle. Original finish, not reworked/reblued. Wartime stock with brass shims.
Got out my 1932 VKT M27s. Both have importer-added serial numbers on the receiver. It's the old style, hand stamped CAI version.
47Norton
Here are the three that I have
1. Mod 91
2. 1941
3. 185874.
4. same
5. uk
6. no
7. no
8. #5 on R. rec. flat.
1. 39
2. 1944
3. 71435
4. same
5. no mark
6. yes
7. no
8. well used square finger stock
1. 39
2. 1942
3. 57542
4. yes
5. 1911, Tula
6. no
7. no
8. round finger stock
Shyquestor
1. M-39
2. 1944
3. NK
4. 6253x
5. 189X Sesty
6. Faintly on barrel (cannot even reead it)
7. NK
8.
M240G
First one
1. Model: M91
2. Barrel Date: 1940
3. Serial on Barrel: 31969
4. Serial on receiver: 31969
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer: 1914 Izhevsk
6. Is receiver serial importer added? Do not know, stamped left side of receiver near front.
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? No
8. Comments: Imperial Eagle still on receiver
Second one
1. Model: M39
2. Barrel Date: 1944
3. Serial on Barrel: 67601
4. Serial on receiver 67601
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer: 1916 Izhevsk
6. Is receiver serial importer added? I'd say yes as it is a dot print simliar to the new CIA import stamp. On receiver top flat. Readable from right side.
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? No
8. Comments: No eagle
briarcliff
1. m91
2. 1942
3. 290xx
4. Same
5. Iz. 1904
6. Yes
7. 47040 on bolt crossed out
1. m39
2. 1942
3. 466xx
4. Same
5
6. Tula 1895
7. No.
MTS
1. Model 39
2. Barrel Date: 1944
3. S/N Barrell 71902
4. S/N Receiver 71902 (importer dot type)
5. Tang Date unknown
6. Yes. Dot.
7. Mult. #'s no (bolt, buttplate, magazine unnumbered)
8. Eagles no
MikeG
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 61956
4. 61956 importer's dot matrix font
5. 1895 Tula
6. yes - dot matrix style
7. only on bolt and floorplate (Finnish matching)
8. Sako stock, round finger joints
rmeron
1. Mdl 39
2. 1941
3. 42015
4. same
5. 1916 Izzy
6. The serial # is stamped and looks like it was done by the Finns.
7. No
8. The receiver is a little pitted,the bolt and magazine are numbered
to receiver and barrel,no Eagle that I can see.
ThreeJs
1. M91
2. 1940
3. 08069
4. same as above
5. Pre 1928 Tula
6. No
7. No
8. There is no markings on the top flat of the receiver
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 61162
4. 41817
5. Dunno. Will update when I get the nerve to tear it down.
6. No. but there is also a importer serial on the receiver that matches the barrel
7. No
8.
LCJr
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 69700
4. 69700(dot matrix, early CAI import)
5. 1914 Sestroryetsk
6. Yes
7. Last 4 digits on bolthead. No serial # on buttplate or magazine.
8. All top receiver markings removed. Looks to be by machining, excepting the importer added serial # of course.
carbonman
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 480XX
4. 480XX
5. On receiver all I have is seral# and a number stamped below serial# which is #3562. seral number match on barrel is SA, VKT, D, 1942.
6. Is 3562 an importer stamp?
7. NO
8.
stantheboltactionman
1.M39
2.1941
3.2890X
4.2890X
5.1904 Sestroretsk
6. no
7. no
8. not refurbed,75% thinned bluing,nice figured wartime stock.
crossed cannons "L" marked.
1. M39
2. 1942
3.4640X
4.4640X
5.1914 Ishevsk.
6. no
7. no
8. Unissued wartime stock, 98% bluing, refurbed. "L" marked stock.
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 7007X
4. 7007X
5. 1908 IZZY
6. Yes
7. no
8. 100% bluing,refurb,Unissued postwar stock with square finger joints.
combat32
1.M91
2.1940
3.05804
4.Same
5.1910 Izhevsk
6.I think it is a Finn number
7.No
8.Reciever eagle peened, D and SA marked
skywarp989
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 57694
4. 57694
5. Undated Chatellerault
6. No
7. No
8. Postwar stock, heavily used after refurb
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 41625
4. 41625
5. 1917 Tula (I think)
6. No
7. No
8. Refurbed SAKO-marked stock
sjohnson
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 61462
4. 61462
5. 1915 Sestroretsk.
6. Yes
7. Yes
8. 3-piece wartime stock, heavy wear.
Dutch Mosin
1. VKT M39
2. 1942
3. 48005
4. 48005
5. 1906 Ishevsk
6. NO
7. 8464 on the bolt handle
8. Three piece wartime stock. Bolt from various arsenals.
johnlee
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 37434
4. 37434
5. 1909 Tula
6. don't think so, blued over
7. no
8. refurbed Sako wartime stock, upper reciever flat machined down but a bit of Imperial eagle still visible
ThomasR
1.m91
2.1940
3.02xx 4 digit #
4.same
5.HEX DON'T KNOW
6 NO
7.NO
8.DOUBLE AZF ON RECIEVER.STOCK IS DARK BURNT LOOKING BIRCH I BELIEVE.
28 mosin
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 33531
4. same
5. Tula 1895
6. no
7. no
8. has the early style M39 barrel mentioned on 7.62x54r's site
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 58013
4. same
5. Tula 1898
6. no
7. no
8. Czar's eagle is still on receiver
FinnFanatic
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 39790
4. 39790 Finn marked
5. 1897 Sesty
6. No
7. No
8. Bolt has same serial # as above, but also has lined out serial #
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 50804
4. 50804 Finn marked
5. 917c Tula
6. No
7. No
8. Bolt and magazine match barrel and receiver
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 73142
4. 73142
5. Illegible, but last number is a 3; also pre-1928 Izzy bow/arrow
6. Yes
7. No
8. Bolt matches; Imperial eagle on receiver partially ground
Musick
1. m91
2. 1942
3. 24815
4. 24815
5. tula 1915
6. no
7. only 24815
8. eagle scrubbed
Glengarry
1, M91
2, 1941
3,12783
4,12783
5,Unable to get gun appart at tis stage
6, no
7,no
8 ,Imperial eagle itact on Hex rec
9, Stock disc brass,1Ktr 1 over 140
10, Butt plate nickeled.
LarryR
1. M91
2. 1942
3. 205xx
4. 205xx
5. 1901 Sestroryetsk
6. ?
7. None
8. Samco import has dot matrix markings on barrel and receiver, but receiver serial number is a deep stamping, not dot matrix. Under magnifier, receiver serial number appears to be underneath the finish, but looks can be deceiving in that regard.
1. M91
2. 1942
3. 298xx
4. 298xx
5. 1914 Ishevsk
6. ?
7. None
8. Same comments as above. I don't know who stamped the S/N on the receiver.
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 463xx
4. 463xx
5. 1910 Ishevsk
6. ?
7. none
8. CAI import
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 450xx
4. 450xx
5. don't know, never disassembled
6. ?
7. none
8. Interord dot matrix importer mark near muzzle, receiver S/N is stamped
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 719xx
4. 719xx
5. don't know, never disassembled
6. Yes
7. none
8. Interord dot matrix importer mark near muzzle, receiver S/N is dot matrix also
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 510xx
4. 510xx
5. don't know, never disassembled
6. My guess is no
7. 607xx on lhs of receiver
8. Interord dot matrix importer mark near muzzle, 510xx on receiver is stamped, 607xx on receiver is also stamped. Both stamped receiver numbers show bluing on the bottom of the numbers, while the rest of the receiver has almost no finish, so both receiver serial numbers look old.
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 268xx
4. 268xx
5. 1916 Sestroryetsk
6. ?
7. none
8. Intrac import
Another comment FWIW. I also have a noname M39, 1967, 6-digit barrel serial number. The importer is Inter Ord, the barrel S/N is dot-matrixed on top of the receiver. There is also 474xx stamped on the left flat of the receiver (on the angled flat, not the vertical one), in the same location as the usual stamped number on the other M39's.
RedOne
1. M-39 VKT
2. 1941
3. 337xx
4. 337xx
5. 1916 Sestroryetsk
6. No
7. None
8. Imperial Eagle , 3-piece wartime stock,1 dow repair,not refurbed, stock crossed cannons "L" marked.
Bolt and magazine match barrel and receiver 75% bluing
Charlie Lima
1) M39
2)1944
3)720XX
4)"dot matrix" same number
5)1938 ( bow & arrow "logo" I am not up on codes so I'm not much help on this one)
6) yes (720xx seems to be) & no (see comments)
7) yes
The bottom of the receiver (near recoil lug), barrel (in front of recoil lug), and the stock barrel channel are all 3 stamped with 82xx. The number 36xx is stamped on the left side of the barrel in front of the receiver so as to be under the stock and not visable. The number stamped on the bottom of the receiver is stamped over 2 characters that are no longer recognizable. Bolt knob is stamped with the last 4 digits of the barrel serial number.The cocking piece and the front sight are both stamped with what appears to be either an S or a 5 inside a "cog" for lack of a better term (think "rotary club"). No marks on top flat of receiver other than the "dot matrix" number.
PeterS
1. M91
2. 1941
3. 17466
4. 17466
5. Tula (18)95
6. No
7. Bolt: 11521, 111144 and lined out 157012
8. Top flat of receiver planed to remove Imperial Eagle, most parts are Tula, Barrel with "D"
1. M91
2. 1941
3. 09574
4. 09574
5. Tula (1)906
6. No
7. No
8. Imperial Eagle on the zop flat of the receiver, left sie number 38545 at the wood-line.
Tacdriver66
1. M27
2. 1932
3. 0230
4. no*
5. 1902 Tula.
6. no
7. Matching S/N on the bolt, no other numbers on any other parts.
8. *Only small imperial eagle on receiver no s/n. 98%+ bluing, Stock appears to be un-issued, wartime(round finger joints)stock, "L" marked.
cetracer
1. Model - M39 VKT
2. Barrel Date - 1944
3. Serial on Barrel - 68992
4. Serial on receiver - 68992
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer - 1896 Tula
6. Is receiver serial importer added? - No - early CAI import mark on barrel
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? No
8. Comments - Purchased from WGA in Dec. 2001 - Excellent, in unissued (rebuilt) condition.
rocklock
1. Model - 1891
2. Barrel Date - 1941
3. Serial on Barrel - 09483
4. Serial on receiver - 09483
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer - None
6. Is receiver serial importer added? - No
7. Are there multiple serial numbers? 6960 on left side of receiver
preachere
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 27102
4. 27102
5. 99 Tula
6. No
7. Buttplate has 6-digit serial number faintly visible that doesn't match barrel/receiver; bolt has last 4 matching barrel/receiver; magazine plate has no number. No line-outs anywhere.
8. Wartime stock has crossed cannon/L cartouche and heavy wear on the right grasping groove; rifle is a Tula receiver with various other parts being Tula, Remington bolt connector and triggerguard/magazine, the rest being Izzy. Imperial eagle is intact. Early M39 barrel.
skydawg
1. Model - 1891
2. Barrel Date - 1942
3. Serial on Barrel - 24486
4. Serial on receiver - 24486
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer - None
6. Is receiver serial importer added? - No
7. none
8. VKT and a "D" above the serial
Windstar
1.M39
2.1941
3.37549
4.same
5.1901 Tula
6.Century import same number on left side hex.
7.no
8.VKT and D above receiver serial number. All Tula bolt parts with an Ishevsk trigger. L with crossed cannons on stock.
ASHRN03
1. Model - M39
2. Barrel Date - 1942
3. Serial on Barrel - 455XX
4. Serial on receiver - 455XX
5. Receiver tang date and manufacturer - 1910 Izhevsk
6. Is receiver serial importer added? - No
7. Multiple SN? No
8. VKT and a "D" above the barrel SN. Top of the receiver has uniform light grind/file marks on a 20 degree diagonal. Imperial eagle appears stippled out. Round finger groove stock.
rob9700
1)M39
2)1944
3)70916
4)70916
5)Tula 1910
6)No
7)No
8)Still in great shape. Has intact Imperial Crest on Top of Receiver
blasterboy82
CAI M39 29404 Rifle 7.62x54R 2/12/05
Georgia, VT 1941 1920 Tula (Bolt)
VKT
1. M39
2. 1941
3. 29404
4. 29404
5. 1920 Tula
6. no
7. no
8. VG condition stock only arsenal repairs with popsicle repairs on both sides, near the tang, and near the bayonet lug. Odd barrel, correct length and diameter, only never crowned, has "dots" that are around end, between the inside diameter and outside diameter of the muzzle. At first thought it had been re-sleeved.
BabbaOReilly
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 496xx
4. 496xx
5. 1897. Unsure of mfgr.
6. No.
7. No.
8. No imperial markings on receiver. No divot where the eagle would have been removed. Perhaps planed to remove or no such markings.
Beetle Bailey
1. M39
2. 1944
3. 705xx
4. 705xx
5. Chatellerault 1894
6. Yes, CAI dot matrix
7. No, only 705xx
8. Wartime stock with "L" inside crossed-cannons cartouche, blackened rear sight ladder with patina rear sight slide. No evidence of imperial eagle having ever been on top of receiver, only marks on top of receiver are "D" and dot matrix serial number. No ground out marks.
fairlane
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 53792
4. 53792
5. Tula marked 914 Backwards R
6. NO
7. Yes 30133
8. Hex Reciever
martin30
M39 VKT
1942
595XX
595XX ON REC. RAIL IN DOT MATRIX.
1897 TULA
YES TG KNOX TN
NO
Post war refurb with square finger joint stock and 98%bluing. No eagle, has D AND SA MARKS. Excellent condition.
Lightning
1. Mod. 91
2. 1940
3. 162XX
4. 425XX
5. 9/11 nothing else readable
6. no Faded Sn 42531
7. Yes barrel has 2L 6609 Bolt lined out 50555 and last 4 of barrel # on bolt knob.
8. It was not issued after rebuild.
HunterJ4068
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 562xx
4. 562xx
5. Izhevsk, 1906
6. No (probably, looks the same age as the other markings)
7. No, only 562xx
8. Post war stock
friedspam
1. M39
2. 1942
3. 5020x
4. 5020x
5. Remington, no date
6. No
7. No
8. Imperial marking on receiver,war time stock, heal repair, bluing redone, CAI st Alb VT
BoreGrv
1. M91 VKT
2. 1942
3. 20454
4. 20454
5. 95 Tula
6. Not shure
7. Yes
8. Remington Circle R bolt, orginal finnish cartouch stamped stock, top of reciever planed.
