UPS Cancelling Gun Dealers
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No, this means licensed Dealers only , no more private party shipping anymore
One "little" detail that most have not caught onto.
Firearms must be shipped from (for dealers) an individual account strictly for firearms. In one of the reference fields, you must enter the s/n of the firearm.(don't know how they are going to handle multiples in 1 box).
We normally use field 1 for the order number, field 2 for misc info,
Whatever is in the reference fields are printed on the shipping label.
Now who would want that information?
UPS has zero authority to track serial numbers, or access any dealer records on either end of the shipment.
I am guessing that a certain alphabet agency is going to be harvesting shipping information from UPS.
As of today, our rep has no information as to what constitutes "parts" for the 3rd account.
Firearms must be shipped from (for dealers) an individual account strictly for firearms. In one of the reference fields, you must enter the s/n of the firearm.(don't know how they are going to handle multiples in 1 box).
We normally use field 1 for the order number, field 2 for misc info,
Whatever is in the reference fields are printed on the shipping label.
Now who would want that information?
UPS has zero authority to track serial numbers, or access any dealer records on either end of the shipment.
I am guessing that a certain alphabet agency is going to be harvesting shipping information from UPS.
As of today, our rep has no information as to what constitutes "parts" for the 3rd account.
The "Instruction" say.: Nothing pertaining to fire arms must be on outside of Box !?
Yeah, and the rep is telling us one of the reference fields must have the s/n.
In the UPS World Ship program, there are certain fields that must be filled in, or the label cannot be created.
The HazMat side has a lot of those.
This will be one of those in the firearm account.
Generally, the markings referred to are company logos, certain names, etc.
Mossberg, the old Marlin, Remington and others have or had their logos on the outer shipping box.
Left no question as to what was in it.
We will know more here in a few days.
But from what I can tell, with this administration behind this, there is a very bad aroma coming from the kitchen.
So I have a Ruger MK3 upper I’m sending to CCR for refinishing…
Can’t ship USPS, as I’m not a dealer.
From how I read it, UPS and FedEx allow licensees to ship. Having a FFL-03, I’m a licensee.
UPS is local and we have multiple pickups a day at work… so figured they would be the best. Go online and try to find how to get an approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products. It just talks about it… zero info on how to do it. It does link to UPS Tariffs/TOS, which says the info is in the firearms link I just came from.
FedEx also picks up at work, so figured I’d check there. Same s***… expect it is called a FedEx Firearms Shipping Compliance Agreement. Zero info on it.
If I can’t find out how to do it, I’ll 2nd Day it and say it is a “R-tube.” My UPS hub is so out of times that I really doubt it will come up. Hell, before the change, I wasn’t paying attention when I shipped a Beretta PX4 to a FFL… said as cheap as possible… and it went ground. Description of goods clearly said “handgun.”
Can’t ship USPS, as I’m not a dealer.
From how I read it, UPS and FedEx allow licensees to ship. Having a FFL-03, I’m a licensee.
UPS is local and we have multiple pickups a day at work… so figured they would be the best. Go online and try to find how to get an approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products. It just talks about it… zero info on how to do it. It does link to UPS Tariffs/TOS, which says the info is in the firearms link I just came from.
FedEx also picks up at work, so figured I’d check there. Same s***… expect it is called a FedEx Firearms Shipping Compliance Agreement. Zero info on it.
If I can’t find out how to do it, I’ll 2nd Day it and say it is a “R-tube.” My UPS hub is so out of times that I really doubt it will come up. Hell, before the change, I wasn’t paying attention when I shipped a Beretta PX4 to a FFL… said as cheap as possible… and it went ground. Description of goods clearly said “handgun.”
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Kinda off topic but I went to the UPS terminal where I ship my rifles and was told no more over the counter gun shipping. Must set up an account and have it picked up by a driver.
That is some of the same problem, and started about 6 months ago for a few of our customers.
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I would have went after ammo and reloading supplies first. What good is a firearm without ammo.
Ammoland has picked up on this as well, with references to the UPS guidelines.
I have no idea, how anyone is going to send a firearm in for service.
www.ammoland.com
I have no idea, how anyone is going to send a firearm in for service.
UPS Releases New ‘Woke' Rules for Shipping Firearms
UPS has released strict new rules for shipping firearms just months after canceling some gun dealers' accounts and destroying packages in transit.
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How To Ship Firearms | UPS - United States
Information from UPS about how to ship firearms, which are considered a special-care shipment and require some extra steps before packing them up and shipping.
www.ups.com
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Ammoland has picked up on this as well, with references to the UPS guidelines.
I have no idea, how anyone is going to send a firearm in for service.
UPS Releases New ‘Woke' Rules for Shipping Firearms
UPS has released strict new rules for shipping firearms just months after canceling some gun dealers' accounts and destroying packages in transit.How To Ship Firearms | UPS - United States
Information from UPS about how to ship firearms, which are considered a special-care shipment and require some extra steps before packing them up and shipping.www.ups.com
Simple - use USPS.
So you go thru a licensed Gun Dealer, Pawnshop, whatever give him $ 20.00 and don't
worry any longer. Still cheaper then over night.
Dieter
Not that simple.
Those requirements for shipping are from the shipping company, and written into the contract between them and the dealer.
You are not going to overnight or even 2nd day air a package for $20. More like $40 and up.
Direct Delivery is only $2, the adult signature is another $6.
Want insurance ? More yet.
USPS Priority used to be cheaper, but their rates have went way up, plus you have the hassle of extra paperwork.
Then there are the ATF regs on logging in and out of any firearm going for repairs. ATF has been picking around the edges of forcing everyone to log-in/log-out the firearm in the A&D records, but so far we have been using a system of paper and computer records that has worked so far.
But my guess is, that is about to change
For anyone interested, I just sent one today for a customer.
Out of the time period that the company would pay the inbound shipping (most companies don't) so it is on the customer.
3lbs, 10x10x3, UPS 2nd Day Air w/ direct delivery and adult signature, no insurance.
From Ohio to Prescott,AZ......$67.47.
Clean up in aisle 2 was almost needed.
Out of the time period that the company would pay the inbound shipping (most companies don't) so it is on the customer.
3lbs, 10x10x3, UPS 2nd Day Air w/ direct delivery and adult signature, no insurance.
From Ohio to Prescott,AZ......$67.47.
Clean up in aisle 2 was almost needed.
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