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I love this description Front strap has an area of pitting,………...the whole fricken thing is pitted :laugh:


as for the price???...……I quit trying to figure out why people spend buckets of money on beat to hell and back guns.....or cars, houses etc... etc.... etc.... all I know is, it's not my money they're spending so I could care less what people pay for things

I pride myself on buying things for less, translation: cheap :laugh:
 

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Since the Gunbroker link will die in 90 days, here is the $1,630.00 Izhevsk Arsenal 1942 TT-33 in under 50% finish and worn wooden grips. Magazine is original matching.

It was once cleaned with heavy grit or stiff steel brush.





 

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Doesn't seem too shocking really, considering the prices Soviet TT-33s have been bringing recently. In nicer condition that would probably bring well over $2K in the current auction market, especially with the matching magazine. The last three import-marked ones with the add-on safety that I watched brought over $1K each on GB.
 

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Wow! I'll have to re-evaluate my collection.

The only thing I can see "distinctive" or "collectible" about this Tokarev is the matching magazine. (It's possible that it 'may' be a fairly early example produced at the newly constructed Izhevsk Arsenal though I don't think so.)

That said, as Aldous Huxley opined in Brave New World, "you pays your money and you takes your choice". (Although another idiom, attributed to P.T. Barnum, also comes to mind.) :laugh:

Bottom line though: if one can afford the cost of an object and that object gives him pleasure, who am I to judge.


 

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I love the rough machining. 1942 was a very bad year for Russia and the tremendous pressure they were under is clearly evident here.

I don’t like that this cool piece of history was so aggressively cleaned. :mad
 

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A few years ago, I paid $225 at a show for a 1942 Russian - no pitting, fair amount of bluing left, but with add-on safety and non-matching mag. Does no safety and a matching mag add an extra $1400 now?

Happy Motoring, Mark
 

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A few years ago, I paid $225 at a show for a 1942 Russian - no pitting, fair amount of bluing left, but with add-on safety and non-matching mag. Does no safety and a matching mag add an extra $1400 now?

Happy Motoring, Mark
To collectors, not having the ugly add-on safety means a lot.

And with one original matching mag is uncommon, with two original matching mags is rare.
 

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A few years ago, I paid $225 at a show for a 1942 Russian - no pitting, fair amount of bluing left, but with add-on safety and non-matching mag. Does no safety and a matching mag add an extra $1400 now?

Happy Motoring, Mark
Had the condition been just a skosh better, meaning no deep pitting or wire wheel cleaning, it would be a $1,500 gun without the import mark and safety.

Three people bid beyond $1,400. And four people bid beyond $880. I would have been done bidding sooner than those folks. And I wouldn't have owned it, because it sold for $1,630 (gulp).
 

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The pitting and overcleaning is why it didn't sell for $2500 or more, which is what nice ones have been bringing recently on GB.
 

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The pitting and overcleaning is why it didn't sell for $2500 or more, which is what nice ones have been bringing recently on GB.
I guess I would need to see links to the completed auctions for the ones which sold for $2500 or more, please. Thank you.
 

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I guess I would need to see links to the completed auctions for the ones which sold for $2500 or more, please. Thank you.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/869413635
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/870667536
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/868008092

I'd post more but closed auctions drop off the site after just a few weeks. I used to have a bunch of them saved but they got deleted.

And in case you also don't believe me that import marked ones with the safety are also selling for over a grand, here are a few:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/866647878
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/867301194
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/870315305
 

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Bigwagon, link 1 and 3 are nuts as they are refinished and the seller even states it. People just wanted something pretty.
 

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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/869413635
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/870667536
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/868008092

I'd post more but closed auctions drop off the site after just a few weeks. I used to have a bunch of them saved but they got deleted.

And in case you also don't believe me that import marked ones with the safety are also selling for over a grand, here are a few:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/866647878
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/867301194
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/870315305
None are over $2,500. Two are completely refinished. One has two matching mags.

I understand that the Soviet TT33 in original finish and with a matching mag is valuable. I have one. But I haven't seen them at $2,500 or more. The going rate is $1,500 to $1,800 for a decent one.

And yep. Some of the safety-added guns have gone nuts. Some of the current Romanian ones are still under $300.

I think that the OP in this thread is amazed at the price of this gun for the condition. And so am I. It's a real dog, and I would hold out for a much nicer one for the money.

This one was a good piece, and a good deal $1,500 with matching mag, and over 80% finish

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/867357918
 

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None are over $2,500. Two are completely refinished. One has two matching mags.

I understand that the Soviet TT33 in original finish and with a matching mag is valuable. I have one. But I haven't seen them at $2,500 or more.
Maybe you haven't but I have seen closed auctions on GB this year above that number. If the search function went back father I'd love to be able to post them.

I'd be curious to know what the actual sale price was on this one:
https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/mint-1944-izhevsk-tokarev-tt-33-matching-magazine.html
 

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wow, I made out like a fat rat when I bought my 1944 all matching TT33 from a guy at a gun show back about 5 or 6 years ago for something like 350 bucks.

noticed it didn't have the added safety and it was refinished. I suspected that someone plugged the safety then refinished it, I didn't see any outward appearance of a plugged safety and for the price I bought it. when I took it home and dissembled it and took out the trigger grouping and eyeballed the inside for signs of a plugged safety ...……. it wasn't plugged. the barrel wasn't pitted. so I was a very happy camper :)
 

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