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Arditi was the proud owner of a late 20s/early 30s grenade launcher or Tromboncino for the Carcano TS carbine/rifle. It fires a 35mm grenade, akin to what we would call a "flash bang" grenade today. The rifle bolt is removed and placed in the launcher for use; a normal ball round is used to launch the grenade. The device is designed to allow the bullet to travel only a short distance to be free of the case, then the gases are vented into the launcher barrel.

He was kind enough to send it to me for inspection as I had ideas of making a few reproduction copies; the complicated nature of the the device completely stopped any thoughts of making a reproduction, too bad for me.

The launcher had been mounted to a Cavalry carbine when Arditi got it, not the proper TS. I agreed to mount it to a TS if he would send one along, which he did.
Many hours of trial/fit/error/fit/trial again; it is done. I did it for him for free, but would not do another one for $500! It is a bear.

Had to modify the stock and the handguard; not to mention inletting for the fitting of the trombocino into the stock itself. The TS stock had been slathered with polyurethane and was ugly, took two days to get that crap off; but the wood underneath was protected and in good shape, even the cartouche is clear!

The original had a small sight added to the barrel and projected to the left, just ahead of the second band; the rear sight had an auxillary rear v notch added to the left. These are missing from this restoration, as I had nothing to go by to make them; however the TS that Arditi sent at one time did have a trombocino attached. One can see the 1, 1.5, and 2 markings on the left side of the rear sight, these indicated the range of the launcher 100, 150, or 200 meters!

Here is the finished product; not "exactly" as the Italians did them, but passable and useable; even down to the link that connects the rifle trigger to the trombocino trigger mechanism, thanks to my friend Steve who is a great machinist.

Check out the pictures. A special thank you goes to Antonio, he was kind enough to send me pictures and original document copies that made it possible to do a reasonable job!

This device is a truly ingenious and beautiful piece of work; it would take thousands of $$ to produce it today. Even though the receiver "looks" like the rifle receiver, it is extensively different.

Enjoy! Oh, and yes Arditi, I will send it back to you - soon!:laugh:
 

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This is "restoration" worthy of the name. Beautiful work! :thumbsup:

Congrats Arditi. :) It's the grail piece for a Carcano collection as far as I am concerned.
 

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Mannnnnnnnnn...that is so sexy! The workmanship is outstanding Don! I must get Steve's phone number to thank him personally. Awesome! The downside is that I have to do something nice for you now. heh heh A Manly Embrace my Friend! Dinner and drinks are on me the next we meet...Blevins Shoot...May? The wife and kids are supposed to come this time, but we can slip away for a quality feast. Maybe our short friend can come as well? Thanks Don. It's beautiful and a dream for me. Thanks for the kind words Rich. Don has been a great friend to me.
Best, Russ
 

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I keep coming back to this thread to look at it. haha
Indeed. In my earlier post I forgot to tell Don that he takes an excellent photo!
 

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Congrats Arditi, that's a rare bird! I've never had one in my hands and I've been collecting Carcanos for 25 years. Good on you for helping 03.
 

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"TROMBONCINO"...get the spelling right please.

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Thanks for the correction; starts with a "T", ends with an "O"; it's a damn poor man that can only spell a word one way! Just to paraphrase H.S. Truman:thumbsup:
 

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Don is a better Gentleman than I am with "hot air balloons".

Thanks Craig. I bought it from Doss W. a few years back and I believe he had an interesting story behind it if memory serves. Co-workers gave it to you as a gift..? I think. Good friends to bring a gift like that to him. Hope/think, I have the item and story right.
 

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Don is a better Gentleman than I am with "hot air balloons".

Thanks Craig. I bought it from Doss W. a few years back and I believe he had an interesting story behind it if memory serves. Co-workers gave it to you as a gift..? I think. Good friends to bring a gift like that to him. Hope/think, I have the item and story right.
I don't know the current story but if we are talking about Doss W---Banzi editor, I feel I can comment. A friend bought the launcher without rifle from an auction for Doug Deur???, who owned and operated the S&D bookstore-gunshop in Indiana Pa. (Most of the stock came from nearby Springfield Sporters.) Doug was going into assisted living. I got the launcher from my friend and several years later took it to the Birmingham show and sold it to Doss. I had by that time obtained a complete rifle and launcher. For what it is worth.
 

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Hi Breakeyup,
Thanks for the lineage story. Interesting. I did buy it from Doss some years back. I must have gotten this item mixed up with another item of his. It's fascinating how these items are passed on from collector to collector through the years. Thanks for the input.

Thank you Tony for helping Don out! We are planning a print run of Italy at War very soon Sir! This month I think.
Best Regards, Arditi
 

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What an amazing, complex grenade launcher. Did the Italians ever copy the French launcher, whch used a simple cup, with a grenade that had a hole through the center? Perhaps the french system, while simple enough, didn't work very well.

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What an amazing, complex grenade launcher. Did the Italians ever copy the French launcher, whch used a simple cup, with a grenade that had a hole through the center? Perhaps the french system, while simple enough, didn't work very well.

Thanks for posting.
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The Italians used a copy of the German 98k cup launcher. They can safely be considered rare.



Check-out this thread: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthr...th-Photos)&highlight=carcano+grenade+launcher

And for no other reason than it's a beautiful example, here's a couple of photos of another Tromboncino:



 
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