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sorry to keep posting random questions, but today I saw a type 38 (pretty sure) with the kokura symbol overlapped on top of the mum. I ahve never seen this before. Is that common?
 

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fairly common. it means the rifle was taken out of service and sent to another country or used for training purposes in Japan. also may have a small mark just under the mum and on top of the 3-8-type markings which would indicate it was used as a training rifle.
 

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The school or bun mark looks like a 1 over horizontal line over an X.
Picture below, shamlessly lifted from one of Quigley's posts.
 
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