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Hello,

I have a question about M96 serial numbers. I have an M96 in very good condition that has a Carl Gustav stamp on the receiver which states the rifle was manufactured in 1923, yet the serial numbers on the rifle are all matching at 419. The only number that doesn't match is the cleaning rod. Shouldn't the serial number on an M96 made in 1923 be much, much higher than 419? Do I have a cannibalized rifle?

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Most likely a replacement receiver . The 3 digit serial number could be a CG 1898 rifle ( serial number 1 to 32xx ) or Mauser 1900 rifle ( serial number 1 to 5000 ) rifle serial number . At some point in time the receiver did not pass inspection , so it had to be replaced . Many of the remaining parts were salvaged with #419 . This occurred in 1923 or later . The receiver was numbered to match the rest of the parts . I would say it is a correct arsenal repair . Not common , but we see enough of them to say the Swedish military did the job .
 

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I cannot see your photo very well , but it looks like a Mauser crown stamped on the bayonet lug . That is a crown with a sagging base line . CG & HVA crowns have a straight base line . Look at your other small parts for the Mauser crown . Any other parts that have been replaced may have a CG crown or HVA crown ( tilted on 45 degree angle ) . If you have many Mauser crowns , it would likely be from the 5,000 Mauser 1900 m/96's . Not real important , but good to know your rifle .
 

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Some sort of a hood. Need more pics though. Probably a FSR sight used with a civilian sight like the "JF" which requires a tall front sight.
 

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Hello again,

Thanks for your replies. I have several photos I'm going to try and upload, which show stamps, serial numbers, etc. Swede, I forgot to look at or photo the bayonet lug, sorry. The front and rear sights are aftermarket peep sights made my Mojo Sights. They do help my aging eyes and this rifle is more accurate than I can shoot it, but I have to say that I may go back to the original M96 sights (I have the original sights from the guy I bought the rifle from). It's really more of an aesthetic thing. I hope this upload works!

Cliff

ps - I can't seem to make the upload work from my PC. I'm going to have to upload them to my image server and then load them from that URL. It may take some time. Sorry!

Trying again:
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Hi Salish,

In response to your original enquiry, your full serial is 505418, which is correct for 1923. The full serial was only placed on the receiver & barrel. The last 3 digits of this serial were placed on most other parts, as you have noted. Looks like you have a fairly original, matching numbers rifle, not cannibalized. For what it's worth my 1923 C.G. is 505068.
Enjoy her :)

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Hi Salish,

In response to your original enquiry, your full serial is 505418, which is correct for 1923. The full serial was only placed on the receiver & barrel. The last 3 digits of this serial were placed on most other parts, as you have noted. Looks like you have a fairly original, matching numbers rifle, not cannibalized. For what it's worth my 1923 C.G. is 505068.
Enjoy her :)

Lloyd
Sounds like a solid conclusion. Nice rifle btw! ;)
 

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His sights are replacement Mo Jo, double diopter sights. While not the best, they are good iron sights for old eyes. I have an identical set on one of my Swedes, and find them very accurate.

I have my original sights in a very safe place. a hole drilled in the wood under the buttstock, so they will never be lost. I also have a set on a Swiss K 31
 

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Hi Salish,

In response to your original enquiry, your full serial is 505418, which is correct for 1923. The full serial was only placed on the receiver & barrel. The last 3 digits of this serial were placed on most other parts, as you have noted. Looks like you have a fairly original, matching numbers rifle, not cannibalized. For what it's worth my 1923 C.G. is 505068.
Enjoy her :)

Lloyd

Lloyd, I sure feel better. Thanks very much for your info.
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His sights are replacement Mo Jo, double diopter sights. While not the best, they are good iron sights for old eyes. I have an identical set on one of my Swedes, and find them very accurate.

I have my original sights in a very safe place. a hole drilled in the wood under the buttstock, so they will never be lost. I also have a set on a Swiss K 31
Thanks for your comments. I will keep trying with the Mojo sights, but I have issues at ranges beyond 75 yards or so. At ranges under 75 yards I can pretty much make the front peep (diopter?) work for me, at beyond this range not having a reference point to use for the front sight really bothers me. I just can't seem to shake it. I was actually thinking about reinstalling the original post front sight but leave the Mojo rear aperture, for a more traditional sight picture. Any suggestions I can use?

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The mo jo sights have removable inserts with several different diameters. I forget if they come with the sights or .you can order them. That might help adjust the view to your liking.
 

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Ususally a front diopter is designed to be used with a circular target at a specific distance for best results. When I was on a ROTC rifle team in college using that set up, on a 50 foot range, the way we sighted on the target was to center the black circle in the front diopter so just an even ring of white showed around the target. the front diopter and the target were centered in the rear apeature,

I really have not done much target shooting with my MoJo set up, and cannot say what front diopter I may have, it's been probably 11-12 years since I set them up. I did kill an armadillo at about 80 yards with one though. I just showed him or part of him in the front diopeter and touched it off for a hit.


At varying ranges the original blade might be more accurate. I chose the front diopter because at my age I have trouble focusing on the front sight as well as the target.

Look here and get a bit more info

https://www.mojosights.com/
 

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Thanks again, Guys. Appreciate the thoughts. I'll keep working on the Mojo's at longer ranges. I may have access to another Mauser with similar, if not identical, original sights. I may try shooting both on the same trip and see how they both work. Thanks again for your help.
 

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Thanks again, Guys. Appreciate the thoughts. I'll keep working on the Mojo's at longer ranges. I may have access to another Mauser with similar, if not identical, original sights. I may try shooting both on the same trip and see how they both work. Thanks again for your help.
Try them a few times, they do take some getting used too. I have been shooting that kind of set up for a little over 50 years off and on now. I have a precision match grade air rifle where the front diopter is an acrylic disk with the aperture hole, and then it is beveled to give a dark almost black ring around the aperture hole, the k 31 and M 96 I mentioned earlier, a K 31 with the big St Marie double diopter target sights and another of my M 96 Swedes with an old match diopeter set up also, so I guess you could say I like them.
 
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