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owilly
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 4:21:45 PM
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Need some input from you experts. I bought a 94 carbine this weekend and it came with this sling. I was wondering if it was the real deal or a made-up one. The length is 50 inches, there are 24 adjustment holes in it, and it is a little narrower than the 96-type slings I have seen. There is only one hole in the end that goes through the stock (see picture below). It is worn in the right places it seems. There is an "HV" crown stamp on the buckle end.

What do you think? Sorry I cut off the buckle end in the overall length picture. I was in a hurry I guess. The end that is cut off has the brass buckle on it as seen in the other pic.

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Thanks...Stacy

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Dutchman
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 5:16:15 PM
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hi Stacy

I'm not 100%, but I think the crown/HV is Danish, not Swedish..

Dutchman


JerryLW
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Posted - 02/23/2004 : 8:31:56 PM
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I have several Swedish m94 carbine slings, and none of them are sewn on the buckle end like that one. I would keep it on the rifle because it is the next best thing to having a real one. Sorry, but it is a keeper. I will not tell how a real m94 buckle is sown until Anders tells you.

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owilly
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Posted - 02/24/2004 : 8:29:06 PM
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JerryLW,

Why not share what you know? I don't understand your reluctance. This is a forum for sharing ideas, opinions, and knowledge.

???

Stacy

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Dutchman
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Posted - 02/24/2004 : 10:03:20 PM
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hey Stacy.....

The m/94 sling I have is sewn across and parallel with the bar of the brass part, not at a right angle like in your photo. This is the same sling on your website but I don't know if it shows this.. but I just checked and wanted to tell you right up front without mystery or intrique:)

Again, I'd hazard to say your sling is Danish.

JerryLW
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Posted - 02/25/2004 : 01:49:23 AM
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Dutchman nailed it on the head! I did not want to be the one to let the cat out of the bag. I have been reading this form for years and no one has told anyone what to look for on a m94 sling other than length and a single hole on the opposite end. It looked like a state secret, and I didn't want to be the one to let out a state secret.


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owilly
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Posted - 02/25/2004 : 08:50:38 AM
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Tear Down The Wall!!! Tear Down The Wall!!! Tear Down The Wall!!!

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dkujr
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Posted - 05/05/2004 : 11:56:04 PM
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Anyone know where M94 slings are available?


luno_AK4
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Posted - 05/21/2004 : 12:03:17 PM
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The sling can be Swedish but I don’t think so because the HV stamp.
HV=Hemvärn (Homedefens )
the Swedish Homedefens don’t use stamps like that .
We use mostly the three crown .
So I think it is Danish
Regards
Olof

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Here is one later answer on another thread:

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swede
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Posted - 10/01/2004 : 03:40:00 AM
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49 inches is correct for a M-94 sling .
 

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Here two hints about looks and expectable price range:

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Dutchman
Posted - 08/21/2006 : 5:15:46 PM
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There are no slings for the m/94. Watch ebay. They're very scarce and command high prices when available.


Ken
Posted - 08/21/2006 : 8:11:24 PM
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Shameless plug, I still have a few original 94 slings and some M45 slings that can be cut to the correct length.

Slings, for the M45 (Can be trimmed to M94 correct length, should be 49" with buckle) used: $ 20
Sling, original M94 sling, used, missing the leather keeper (same as the 96/38 sling): $ 80 ea

www.kebcollc.com



Anders
Posted - 08/22/2006 : 5:05:37 PM
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Just a short note.

m/94 slings should not have a keeper.

//Anders


DaWoof
Posted - 08/31/2006 : 02:01:36 AM
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I'd like one of your $80 M94-14 slings...PM sent..


opee
Posted - 08/31/2006 : 11:36:40 AM
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FYI, There is currently a real M94 sling on Ebay, and there is also a separate leather M94 sling buckle for sale. Buy from Ken if you can as the $80 seems like a good price. I recently bought one sling for my M94 and the cost was in that ball park. No telling what the Ebay sling will go for.
 

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Another m/94 sling authentication thread

madboy357
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 3:47:12 PM
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Came across this today in a box of unknown slings. OAL is ~48 inches, and ~1 1/8 inch wide. 32 holes, plus one more at the loose end. Only marking appears to be a crown or shield.

Is this an original M94 carbine sling, and if so, what is its value on the current market?

Thanks in advance!

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swede
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 4:48:16 PM
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The M-94 slings are about 49 inches long , but I see the ones that I have vary slightly in length . So , 48 inches is not a problem . All of mine have 25 holes , so 32 holes is not correct , but someone may have added 7 holes ?????? You have a Naval crown stamped on your sling , which was nicknamed a " cats claw " by collectors . You do not see that very often . Without seeing it in my hands , I am guessing that it is an original M-94 sling . The big "IF" being the number of holes .

The M-45 Swedish "K" sub machine gun sling is long enough to make a M-94 sling , whereas the M-96 sling is to short . I do not know how many holes are in the M-45 sling , so that is a question that needs to be answered ???? Also , I do not know if the Naval units were issued the M-45 . So , there is a lot that needs to be learned here .

As for a price , the last M-94 sling I saw sold in the $100/$200 range on EBAY .


madboy357
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 5:04:27 PM
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I unfolded the sling and remeasured, it is indeed 49 inches of leather, 49 1/2 if you count the metal buckle. The holes count 32 plus the one at the loose end; they start at 16 inches from the buckle end, and end at 44 inches from the buckle. All appear to be original, ie, not added recently. The loose end has not been cut, it apears as aged as the rest of the sling.

Does the naval aspect add any value? I will likely be selling/trading this, so I would like to represent it correctly.


MP78
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 6:06:39 PM
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The sling may be of extra importance to someone with a naval issued rifle...Jim


Bob A
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 10:31:25 PM
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The M45 sling I have is 65" long including buckle and has 50 holes. 1 1/8" wide,no marks of any kind and the buckle end is riveted rather than sewn. I was told it was an M45 sling... it may be.
 

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Is this an m/94 carbine sling?

longrangesniper
Posted - 03/31/2007 : 02:55:50 AM
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Seems to have the right measurements according to the books but I thought I'd check with the experts. A shade over 54 inches from tip of leather to leather at buckle end (but not including length of buckle)or 127.4 cm. Width is One and one eighth of an inch or 28mm. There are 25 holes in the main length plus one hole at the end to fit the buckle on the carbine. I did have this fitted on my m'94 but I no longer have the carbine. I'm going to sell it but did not want to call it genuine and very rare if it was a sub-machinegun sling. Nice supple leather.

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swede
Posted - 03/31/2007 : 03:50:32 AM
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I cannot say it is a M-94 sling , as they are usually about 49 inches long , with 25 holes . The M-45 sub-machinegun sling is about 65 inches long with 50 holes . So , it may not be Swedish ????
I do not know if the M-94 slings were ever 54 inches long ???????



Tailgunner
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 12:26:12 AM
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I have an M-94 with what seems to be the original sling; I've had the rifle for over 25 years. It has 32 holes plus 1 for the buckle. Those M-94 slings may not all be exactly the same, however. Mine is also a shade over 54 inches leather to leather. The buckles on mine are the same width where they fasten to the leather as they are where the pin is; thus, my buckles seem to be more perfect rectangles than yours. But, they are very close in appearance. My M-94 is a "Carl" dated "1904" on the receiver.



Tailgunner
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 12:35:57 AM
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There is a picture of my M-94 with sling at http://old.gunboards.com/uploaded/tailgunner/2007320201256_Swede2.jpg
Check it out.



swede
Posted - 04/05/2007 : 04:33:59 AM
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We have nothing in writing with the correct M-94 sling size. Only 49 inches with 25 holes which is normaly seen. It is very possible that the sling sizes changed over the years . When we see a M-94 sling like yours with Swedish "Crown" markings, we will know for sure there are various lengths in existance as well as various number of holes. I won't say yours is NOT correct.
 
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