[Rob Ski]

SVD type from the Hungary is the interesting offering on the US market. But how this rifle really shoots? We are sharing our observations based on the extensive use of this rifle.

 

[timmct]

That little gong shot was SWEET!!

 

[Rob Ski]

That little gong shot was SWEET!!

Sound from it still rings in my ears!

 

[reiver1]

Man, great shooting...I can imagine what that midget gong looks like in the scope.

 

[viking90]

No no no SVDs aren't accurate....it says so on the internet

 

[bmont]

Rob that was impressive! Had to watch that vid twice. Thanks for posting about these rifles.

 

[Rob Ski]

Rob that was impressive! Had to watch that vid twice. Thanks for posting about these rifles.

Thank you for watching! Rifle truly is a great shooter!

 

[PMB]

Congratulations - impressive shooting - Veronika's achievement as well - Congratulations.
May I ask for the clarification on the ammo? I've heard that 174 grain bullets were used, but about the abbreviation "smd" (?) I'm not so sure - Sierra Match ... ? Could you please give some more details about the ammo?

 

[mike radford]

No no no SVDs aren't accurate....it says so on the internet

Seems like the definition of sniper rifle is changing. I noticed the SVD deficiency claim several times on various forums, it is obsolete and a DMR at best they claim.. They were even claiming that a Stoner was a DMR even though many are sub half MOA. Hey, half MOA or most SVDs are accurate enough to serve as snipers IMO. The only problem with these rifles is a bit of a limit on range vs some like the Artic Warfare and even our 300 WM sniper. Seems they expect quarter MOA or it is not a sniper.

Rob, great vid as usual. Veronica is amazing as well. Thanks. I have been on the notification list for a while but tight money and priorities may stop getting one. My 308 NDM will do a little better anyway so do I really need one?

I need a better living space on my WY property and what I could have gotten for $35K 18 months ago is $100K. Inflation is not 6% on stuff we have to buy like food and fuel and those are given equal weight to stuff that is more optional when they figure inflation.

I have seen no SMK for 54r, just the hornady match which I think they use in the S&B match which Rob has liked

 

[Rob Ski]

Congratulations - impressive shooting - Veronika's achievement as well - Congratulations.
May I ask for the clarification on the ammo? I've heard that 174 grain bullets were used, but about the abbreviation "smd" (?) I'm not so sure - Sierra Match ... ? Could you please give some more details about the ammo?

We are using SB 174gr (red box) ammo.

 

[Rob Ski]

Seems like the definition of sniper rifle is changing. I noticed the SVD deficiency claim several times on various forums, it is obsolete and a DMR at best they claim.. They were even claiming that a Stoner was a DMR even though many are sub half MOA. Hey, half MOA or most SVDs are accurate enough to serve as snipers IMO. The only problem with these rifles is a bit of a limit on range vs some like the Artic Warfare and even our 300 WM sniper. Seems they expect quarter MOA or it is not a sniper.

Yes, bullet arc on 700yds shots is really something else to watch...this is rather slow going round. Further you go with it, your margins of error for wind and range estimations are shrinking rapidly...

 

[mike radford]

We are using SB 174gr (red box) ammo.
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That was my guess. The bullets are either Hornady Match or about a duplicate. Very good bullets. I stocked up about 500 or a bit more of the bullets. I need to find a good hard quality primer so I can use them in my NDM. I had just OK results with that S&B, about the same as with 7N1. After getting Soviet Yellow box Match, I got the best results with it and it is best in everything I have tried it in except my NDM. Must be the heavy bullets are inadequately stabilized. They do well in PUs and M-39s. My remaining Match is rated at 7.2 and 7.7 cm, 20 rounds at 300 meters. Wish I had more.

I was noticing the vapor trails and considerable bullet drop. You also had a light wind but it varied at times enough to make it tricky. It was impressive how well you did, as usual. Veronica's PSL is amazing. Wish either one of mine could do half as well.

Haven't got around to reading the entire text in Am. Rifleman on the new infantry rifle that computes the distance, wind and everything. You just put the target on the aimpoint and it goes where it should without any operator calculation or worries out to 800 yds. If it is that good, sniper rifles that drop off effectiveness rapidly beginning about 800 yds will be unnecessary.

 

[milprileb]

Rob,

Did suppressor jack up harmonics and alter accuracy ? This particular rifle is effective to 700 m...is that your analysis? If I understand correctly that rifle had a 4x optic which is a demanding scope to use at longer distances, no small challenge . Great shooting. Saluting Veronica for top gun on that match.

 

[Rob Ski]

Rob,

Did suppressor jack up harmonics and alter accuracy ? This particular rifle is effective to 700 m...is that your analysis? If I understand correctly that rifle had a 4x optic which is a demanding scope to use at longer distances, no small challenge . Great shooting. Saluting Veronica for top gun on that match.

I honestly don't think suppressor has much impact on it, reason I'm saying this, because of thread on AK Files where many different users report similar or even better accuracy out of those rifles. So it looks like this is true winner.
@4x optic - clearly limiting factor vs small size targets, but I still think that this is very effective scope vs regular IPSC size targets

 

[mike radford]

The Germans in WW2 studied what optic was adequate for targets to 800 meters and determined that 4X was the practical answer. Their 6X was determined to be un-necessary so they pretty much stuck to that study. I could not shoot like Rob or Veronica with a 36X Leupold.

 

[milprileb]

Rob has Veronica spotting for him, a definite edge for success

 

[Rob Ski]

Rob has Veronica spotting for him, a definite edge for success

Lol, yes! But seriously, she is getting better and better at spotting too!

 

[Rob Ski]

The Germans in WW2 studied what optic was adequate for targets to 800 meters and determined that 4X was the practical answer. Their 6X was determined to be un-necessary so they pretty much stuck to that study.

This is tricky subject, yes, 4x is doing wonders on the fully uncovered human body - great field of view, and plenty of magnification to eliminate that target, but the moment you have to sort out targets in prone, camouflaged and partially covered, shit is getting complicated...that's why variable scopes usually are big help. Even with modern optics, i never shoot past 12x (10x is good for me 99%), but there are moments when I like to dial little up on magnification to positive ID the target, then dial down for actual shooting, unless I'm on the clock or etc.

@shooting - Mike, rifles do the shooting, we just pull the trigger

 

[dragnov18]

Rob, I have the same HD18 and a .308 NDM. I see you're running a can on the HD18. Are you putting the can directly on the external threads of the flash hider? Some people have said theirs were wonky and wobbly but mine seems very solid. I'm thinking of getting a JMAC 360 brake in 1.5x24 thread for the external threads of the brake and then slipping my Omega 300 on it. Thanks man!

 

[Rob Ski]

Rob, I have the same HD18 and a .308 NDM. I see you're running a can on the HD18. Are you putting the can directly on the external threads of the flash hider? Some people have said theirs were wonky and wobbly but mine seems very solid. I'm thinking of getting a JMAC 360 brake in 1.5x24 thread for the external threads of the brake and then slipping my Omega 300 on it. Thanks man!

I'm using original threads. I removed the pins, inspected everything and decided it was worth trying. Everything seems still to be fine. I hope I didn't jinx it ,,,