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Guys,
Vic and I have ran the gamut trying to figure this one out. Our default consensus is that it could be a reproduction stamping but we have no evidence as of yet. However, it is the same as a cartouche that the AVS-36 used in the 1930s, Vic found that in an old book. Notice that the hammer and sickle has no wreath around it but the stock is a wartime one referencing the type of escutcheon used. Those two ideas conflict with each other since one can find Izhevsk cartouches pre-war that have the wreath inside the circle.
The stamping appears to have been double struck, which is common, and looking at it with a magnifying glass I can't see any evidence of a different cartouche behind it that may have been sanded for example. Besides, going with what I know I have never heard of anyone even doing reproduction cartouches. We all would certainly like to know if that's the case of course.
Any ideas or evidence on your part?

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Not sure what to make of it. The "C"'s are more round & more "full" and have thinner lines than any I am used to seeing...also non-serifed. Looks "non-reg" to me. Often fakes are re-stamped over a weak original or they are double-struck because the novice "proofer" has no experience in the process and either striles the stencil too weak on the first time or pounds it in way too hard. Maybe a Mosin mystery until more show up. DDR
 

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Its a nice looking stamp as most of mine are either too light or worn down. Still, it doesn't seem right to me either. The one well stamped cartouche that I have has thicker lines and letters.

As for different cartouches at different dates, my two faint cartouches are on 1930's finn capture 91/30's. The better cartouche I have is on a correct M38 stock with wartime expediency sling slots. The rifle is a 1943 so its possible the stock is original to the rifle.

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Its a nice looking stamp as most of mine are either too light or worn down. Still, it doesn't seem right to me either. The one well stamped cartouche that I have has thicker lines and letters.

As for different cartouches at different dates, my two faint cartouches are on 1930's finn capture 91/30's. The better cartouche I have is on a correct M38 stock with wartime expediency sling slots. The rifle is a 1943 so its possible the stock is original to the rifle.

T
Do yours have the wreath in the circle though?
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"Do yours have the wreath in the circle though?"

Yes, it looks very much like the one Vic just posted.

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