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Is this SSG-69 considered a sniper?PII?
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A sniper rifle. Tactical rifle. Designated marksman rifle. Target rifle. Precision rifle. Rifle that shoots (hopefully) bad guys. The SSG-69 has many names but declaring it a “sniper” rifle would probably be my last choice from the list of possibilities.
 
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Do I intend on shooting it? Probably not.
The SSG-69 is made in Austria. No connection to the SSG-82 .
This one came from a collection that just sold. And its chambered in 308 . I’ll know more about it when I have it in hand.
I’ve had a SSG-82 for about 4 years and this Sp66 for over a year and never shot them.
 
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SSG 82 - Wikipedia

The Scharfschützengewehr 82 or SSG 82, literally Sharpshooter's Rifle 82, is a rifle chambered in the 5.45×39mm Soviet cartridge "built in East Germany at the end of the Cold War" for use by East German special police units. Very little was known about this weapon and very few examples have been imported into the west, with importer Century International Arms having imported around 600 at the turn of the century. It's known that at least 2000 SSG 82s were made. The SSG 82 actually was specifically designed for use in the Ministry for State Security (Stasi) to stop the import of police sniper rifles from non-socialist countries and military sniper rifles from socialist!

I like that extended mag.. where/what do they they cost?
 
#20 ·
The P II Variant of the Steyr-Mannlicher SSG69 was the supposed "Police Sniper" version. The barrel was thicker and lacked the open sights, the bolt handle was also different.

The SSG69 is still in service with the Austrian Army. It has some issues with breaking trigger guards due to the plastic from back then being not made for decades, but it can be replaced if broken. The magazines share the same problem, but the more expensive 10 round zig-zag magazine is anyway the one to choose.

Within the US the rifles were offered in combination with Hensoldt scopes, as your rifle perfectly illustrates. It might have been due to the importer having a connection with Hensoldt. In Europe this is a very atypical combination you will not find. The scope rings were matched to the rifle in the US. Mating them with the rifle was also standard for Austrian Army rifles. Depending on the date you can find different sizes for those. And of course the front and rear scope ring are not interchangeable since the front scope ring has an additional stopping bar included that locks it in place when tapered against the very front end of the dovetail on the rifle.

Re "Production Date": the proof date was October 1985, this does not necessarily mean it was made the same month, but supposed close prior to that date.

Just recently I posted pictures of my Austrian Army issued SSG 69 P IV (short threaded barrel version for usage with silencer) here: Austrian Army SSG69 P IV with Silencer , if you want to compare it.
 
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Why do you keep posting on the SSG82? This does not interfere with the topic, nor does it answer any questions of the OP. It is like in a Porsche 911 thread someone keeps posting pictures of a BMW Z4 (maybe even worse, since at least Porsche and BMW are from the same country, what it isn't with the Austrian Steyr-Mannlicher SSG69 and the East German VEB SSG82).
 
#28 ·
well all have wish's, dreams, when I've researched guns?
dead ends an, that professional that mis understood misleading facts... with conflicting facts or leaning favoritisms with partial research.
mine was..Voere's, who made actions Germany Austrian connections> companies outsourcing, other connections, Husqvarna's too..
don't get up set...research every ones leads ...to your very rarer than ssg rifle...shoot report..
"shoot some more \/ictory is in that you own it!<><dan
 
#29 ·
Yes, I did use rude words. However, it is quite annoying to re-read several times persons going heavy off topic and even throwing in very weird and fully wrong thoughts of theirs which are not marked as such which could lead to wrong future references. I guess you got the same reactions when you did this back in 2016, so please also understand why I reacted this way.
 
#39 ·
No dave, you didn’t just use rude words...you are rude. You might want to think of yourself as ‘direct’ but you come across a verbal bully. Don’t read something that bothers you, if you chose. You’re not the moderator; you’re a participant. Or if you are feeling your sense of superiority and are bursting your britches to put someone in their place, try, if you are capable to be kind and polite with your criticism. You, however, have gone out of your way to personalize your comments re my postings to a point where you, with absolurte ignorance of any facts baselessly guess at the reason why I have not participated in this bd for 5 years. you know nothing.
 
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[QUOTE="DaveFromSheffield, post: Re "Production Date": the proof date was October 1985, this does not necessarily mean it was made the same month, but supposed close prior to that date.
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Thanks Dave .
This one is oct 95 correct? CDM Well by this code sheet if I looking at it correctly. Nice rifle by the way. I saw that post while I was searching information before the auction ended.
 
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This one is oct 95 correct? CDM Well by this code sheet if I looking at it correctly. Nice rifle by the way. I saw that post while I was searching information before the auction ended.
Sorry, this was a typo of mine. You are correct, CDM is October 1995 and not 1985 as incorrectly stated by myself.

Here are the 2 guns side x side for the experts. [...] The SSG69 a previous owner added sealer to the stock, otherwise both were unfinished. The textured areas on the stocks are identical in addition to the info previously provided. Yes, I'm sure this SSG69 is not up to par with Davefromsheffield, nor is any further discussion permitted.
The wooden stock as shown with the SSG69 was the stock that was originally issued with the "SSG Match" variant. The stocks are interchangeable, the SSG69 could be ordered with the wooden SSG Match stock as well. The SSG Match had an extra long handle with a black plastic ball on the end and featured a different rail atop the receiver. There were additional stock variants available as well, including an UIT stock and even a brown plastic stock, the UIT stock being visible in this old US ad:


More pics of different models and stocks available here: SSG 69 Match and Sport
 
#31 ·
I had an SSG69 but not the PII version. Mine had the double set triggers which really made it wonderful to shoot. Like the others said the PII was supposed to be the police sniper version. I do know my rifle with the lighter barrel was very accurate and I imagine the heavier barrel would be as good or better. I hated the magazines which are plastic and tend to break. They're expensive and tough to find as well.

I have an SSG82 which I shoot and as others noted, it has absolutely nothing to do with the SSG69 other than the German term for sharp shooters rifle. Nothing made in Austria or by Steyr, It does use a bolt with lugs at the rear however though its a different setup. Neat rifle but not in the same class as the Steyr.


Frank
 
#35 ·
Here are the 2 guns side x side for the experts. You guys do know the 82's were unmarked (other than the scope and serial #) FAJAS GERMANY was marked by the importer, not by FAJAS as you assume. Just because wikepedia says so in your research does not make it so. There are certainly many private label situations. The SSG69 a previous owner added sealer to the stock, otherwise both were unfinished. The textured areas on the stocks are identical in addition to the info previously provided. Yes, I'm sure this SSG69 is not up to par with Davefromsheffield, nor is any further discussion permitted. Air gun Wood Trigger Shotgun Gun accessory
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#40 ·
Life too short to short cut politeness for the sake of already knowing, it stifles Many themes, subjects repeat for some it‘s brand new info?
a little overwhelming for all ready in the know experts...not for us learning, relearning, or a little confused, mis lead by ads, authors or unprofessional attitudes cutting short the discussion that may enlighten me, others interested in even the re-hashing....?
none here sins enough to bring negativity into any discussion Unless “faking facts” which is different than this...
Misplaced comments angers gone source has ruined sites, discussions here on boards...going unchecked at times..its toxic ....people quit posting, leave, or reserve info afraid to be reticule .....
im not mod. ...I’m interested in both guns spoken about .....
Lord bring knowledge, peace and personal gratitude for our still freedoms to openly discuss our trade, constitutional rights, un God we witness faith in our county’s ability to travel truer paths amen <>< dan
no offense given...
“no dog in the fight, just hunting on the same range, not wanting game to scatter, leaving me wanting more!”
 
#43 ·
Life too short to short cut politeness for the sake of already knowing, it stifles Many themes, subjects repeat for some it‘s brand new info?
a little overwhelming for all ready in the know experts...not for us learning, relearning, or a little confused, mis lead by ads, authors or unprofessional attitudes cutting short the discussion that may enlighten me, others interested in even the re-hashing....?
none here sins enough to bring negativity into any discussion Unless “faking facts” which is different than this...
Misplaced comments angers gone source has ruined sites, discussions here on boards...going unchecked at times..its toxic ....people quit posting, leave, or reserve info afraid to be reticule .....
im not mod. ...I’m interested in both guns spoken about .....
Lord bring knowledge, peace and personal gratitude for our still freedoms to openly discuss our trade, constitutional rights, un God we witness faith in our county’s ability to travel truer paths amen <>< dan
no offense given...
“no dog in the fight, just hunting on the same range, not wanting game to scatter, leaving me wanting more!”
Very well put. Do I have more info, yep. Am I going to share, no because you are entirely correct, not angry just annoyed enough to not go out of my way to gather up the info that is stashed here. It was fun while it lasted.
 
#41 ·
Just to add a bit more information - The biggest difference between the SSG69 PII and earlier models is that the PII has a Picatinny rail instead of the proprietary Steyr rings shown in the original post. CDNN has been selling these for several years for $1399, if I remember correctly. They originally had all kinds of variations: single or double triggers, green or black stock, 20" or 26" barrel, threaded or not. Last time I checked the only thing they had left was the 26" in black with single trigger. The PIIK with 20" barrel is generally considered the police version because it's quite a bit handier in an urban environment. It's no longer in front-line use by the Austrian army but it's still plenty accurate. Mine is green, single trigger, 26" and I have a 2.5-10x Steiner on it. It consistently shoots under 1/2 MOA with any good match or sniper grade ammo.
 
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