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I've noticed the more time goes on, there's less and less coming up for sale, especially quality stuff. I've been scouring listings for over 2 years now for an exceptionally nice 1925-1928 Tula ex dragoon, and while there are some that come up for sale, there's always something wrong with them. Either they'll have electro penciled or mismatched numbers, have a wartime or postwar stock, have awful flaking lacquer or be refinished/sanded, be pitted or counter bored, have a poorly struck/dull rollmark, ect. ect. I have seen quite a few Izhevsk that meet the same criteria in the last 2 years, although not many lately. Have y'all been experiencing the same with searches of items your looking for?
 

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I was still finding pretty decent Mosin stuff in 2020 and early 2021, since then, not so much. I went back to modern sporting stuff around late last year; got a FN military collector M4, Steyr AUG in OD w/ 3x optic, Benelli M4, Wilson Combat 92G, you know, the good stuff! I know back in late 2016, a large batch of high quality Tula ex dragoons came in, but I think Classic ended up with most of them. So maybe they are cursed.
 

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I'm deeply curious to see if the floor will drop out on milsurps today much like Civil War stuff 15-20 years ago. My uncle was big into the Civil War stuff around the year 2000 and it was all the rage. Prices were insane. Then the floor dropped out and no one wanted the stuff anymore.
So 135 years after the civil war people lost interest, if history repeats itself, we'll be able to afford WW2 guns again around 2080. A lotta good that does us.
 

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I don't mind that gun prices are rising, and hope their value stays ahead of inflation. The perfect investment is the one you can enjoy, and increases in value.
I'd honestly prefer if mosins were worth $5 a piece; I would STILL be interested in them, and I could buy a whole crate for $100. But, the reason I started this thread had nothing to do with the high prices, it had to do with availability of anything quality anymore.
 

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If you think Bubba has retired, you should see some of the posts on the Mosin Nagant Facebook group. BTW, a lot of the members doubtlessly think I'm a real A-hole (or "Fudd" or "Boomer" or some of those other terms that mouth breathers like to sling around), but I still haven't been kicked out. :ROFLMAO:
There's an awful sporterized 1934 on the broker right now, they have it listed for $1850 lol. Good luck getting $185 for that POS.
 

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A Tula Dragoon from that date range and with your requirements was going to be a hard find anyway-even years ago.
I still find deals but my collecting style is more, “I know a bunch about milsurps, let’s see if something got overlooked at this pawn shop…” In other words, I’m not picky in the least. Last thing I bought at a store was a Turk Mauser (former Gew. 98, rebarrel and refurbed after WWII) because it was $250.
I've been looking for one actually since 2009-2010 or so, back then, I remember seeing some WOW examples of '25-'28 Tulas. I was in high school at the time though, and back then they were going for about $250-300 or so, a regular 91/30 was $100-150. All I could scrape together at the time I used to get a 1935 Tula in a laminate stock (keep in mind the recession was particularly bad here). I hadn't started looking for one again until the spring of 2019 off and on, but since early 2020, I've been looking about 3-5 times a week. I missed the boat when a large batch of early Tulas came in late 2016, and now it's like they never even existed, except for the lesser examples. I actually had a 1926 Tula from when I bought a guys collection in August of 2020, but I sold it because the bluing wasn't great, nasty import mark, and rough looking wartime stock. Nowadays the problem isn't that I can't afford one, it's you can't even find 'em.
 

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Are you talking actual Dragoon rifles or ex-Dragoon rifles? Actual Dragoon rifles are pretty much impossible to find in anything near the condition you are talking about at any price-ever. Best you can usually do is finding one in decent shape that got imported from Spain way back in the day or one of the Finnish capture ones.
Ex-Dragoons are neat but a whole different animal.
Looking for a nice ex dragoon. Really the problem is I'm just very picky, I've seen quite a few come up, but they aren't to my standards.
 

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Picked up a nice Colt M1917 revolver on the trader recently. Will go nicely with my S&W M1917.

Also got lucky and found an all matching BCD 43 K98K for $1300 on gunbroker buy it now.(Jury is still out until I get it in hand and can examine it/field strip for bolt internals and stock markings.)

Deals are still out there, you just gotta kick over more rocks to find the good stuff and be willing to pay up then and there when you see it because if you don't, someone else will.(Not saying that Colt was a deal by any means but it's a nice early one.)
That's cool nc, I just don't have a wide variety of interests like most of you guys do. My focus is almost entirely Mosin/Russian related.
 

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Got my ten (three of them are notably bent) clips and my 80 rounds of ammo! Still been meaning to go to the range...
I think I read before that your carcano is the only milsurp you own. You should get yourself a nice mosin when you can, then you won't have to spend $2 a round and/or reload to shoot it. Eastern bloc arms has copper washed LVE 148 grain for 50c/rnd, the same stuff as the wolf military classic except it comes in a different box.


I've ordered 3 cases in the last month or so myself.
 
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