[hm6d]

Found in a box of unrelated firearms stuff. This one has a good reticule, no flaking of reticule paint, it is cosmetically nice and a coat of wax would make the exterior look really good.
The tiny screw in the knurled bezel that I believe secures the rubber eyepiece is missing. The rubber eyepiece is missing. Overall, this would look good on a rifle. Does the following mean the scope was on a rifle?

"99 No 4270"

 

[shahps50]

Let me know if you are thinking of selling it. thanks

 

[nambu1810]

If shahps50 passes, and you are selling; put me next in line

 

[BIG ED]

It was once issued to type 99 rifle #4270. Unfortunately the mount has had the back milled off. It could be fixed by someone in the know. I'm sure it would not be cheap.

 

[fredh]

Ed, the 4270 is scope manufacturer's number. The rifle number would have been on the back plate. It may not be too much of a deal to make the dovetail and screw it to the mount, then make a latch (Don should jump in here). That makes the scope still worthwhile and probably worth at least 50-60% of whatever this week's latest valuation for a complete one. The scope appears to be in nice shape otherwise, and is this time of dwindling supply of collector pieces should command some type of premium.

 

[BIG ED]

Ok Fred I remember now that number would be on the block.

 

[fredh]

Ok Fred I remember now that number would be on the block.

Yea, yea, yea. I know you. You're still dazzled by your new toy and are not able to concentrate on the obscure points of sniper scope collecting!

 

[BIG ED]

Yea, yea, yea. I know you. You're still dazzled by your new toy and are not able to concentrate on the obscure points of sniper scope collecting!

LOL. Going to shoot it two weeks from now :>)

 

[03man]

As Fred says, the back is milled flat, but material has also been removed along the bottom edge of the mount.

I can't tell if the stop pins are still on the front of the flange; the locking arm is also missing.

 

[hm6d]

Some measurements

Thanks for the observations. I have never seen one of these in person and did not notice the milling work. The flat flange now measures slightly less than 4MM in thickness running around 3.87 - 3.95 MM

You can examine the partial "in the white" screw hole and estimate the missing area on bottom edge to get an idea of the reduction of height. I do not see any "pins". Hope this helps.

 

[jangle]

Since you've added a close-up photo of the front of the scope, it is a Kokura T-99 2.5 power scope issued to rifle #439, a much scarcer scope than a Nagoya "cut-back" scope. Imbeciles always choose a scarce item to butcher! It would be worthy of a restoration.

 

[03man]

Thanks for the observations. I have never seen one of these in person and did not notice the milling work. The flat flange now measures slightly less than 4MM in thickness running around 3.87 - 3.95 MM

You can examine the partial "in the white" screw hole and estimate the missing area on bottom edge to get an idea of the reduction of height. I do not see any "pins". Hope this helps.

Maybe these pictures will help you visualize what has been done to the mount.

 

[hm6d]

Wow- thanks for the pictures of an unaltered subject. It will require some real imagination and a lathe / mill to save this scope.

 

[mike radford]

Since you've added a close-up photo of the front of the scope, it is a Kokura T-99 2.5 power scope issued to rifle #439, a much scarcer scope than a Nagoya "cut-back" scope. Imbeciles always choose a scarce item to butcher! It would be worthy of a restoration.

True, that makes it an even bigger shame. Sad. IMO best role for this one is a parts scope unless someone has some good spare parts for the mounting mechanism and a lot of skill.

 

[shahps50]

You need to set up your PM

 

[104056]

I would not part it out what if the matching rifle shows up.

 

[Vicasoto]

Hi jeeplover :

Yes this is a new scope serial number for our sniper scope files, and thanks to James who noted that it was issued to Kokura 99 rifle 439. The matching rifle has not been reported thus far, although the number falls between known rifles 429 and 444.

hm6d :

The 2 locking lever stop pins ( 3mm ) were pressed into the small upper holes, the two larger holes below that were done by Bubba by drilling thru the lever indents, these may have been intended for screws to secure the scope to some flat base.
Shame that a scarce scope was ruined. There are a couple of gents here on the board who love challenges and are capable of making a restoration project, unfortunately the original dovetail is gone and so even if restored it would no longer be factory zeroed to the matching rifle other than by the engraved rifle number on the outside.
Vicasoto

 

[hm6d]

Vicasoto,

Thanks and thanks to 03Man for the earlier posted pictures of the unmolested example. Prior to those pictures I could not really visualize what had been done to this scope. I believe at this point I will wait for everyone to check their rifles for SN#439 and after a period of time list on e-bay. This has been a most educational trip for me!

 

[Ronin48]

I had an externally adjustable scope tube and a cut off 99 scope base, Azgunso crafted a scope mount (cradle) and pinned it to the cut off base. Looks original and I've had several offers to buy it, even thought the prospective buyers knows it's a restoration. I have it on the "Type 4 paratrooper sniper carbine," looks MEAN!

 

[hm6d]

Thanks Ronin48,
If I understand you correctly, you had a complete side plate/scope base that had the optics tube removed? Wish I had that as part of mine has been milled away!