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So if I’m reading correctly, President Trump wants to punish the criminal and Joe Biden wants to punish gun owners. Weird.

Oddly, I learned today that if you go to the ANTIFA website, ANTIFA.com, it takes you directly to Joe Biden’s election page. It’s scary to think that Joe, Kamala, and ANTIFA have openly joined forces. Actually, it’s scarier that half of our great Country is ok with that.

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I have never bought a gun from the government, so Ill be selling nothing “back”.

Honestly, with the stupid bumpshooting stock ban, Trump has implemented more guncontrol than Obama ever did....but that dont make todays Dems from being audacious, with defunding the police, joining forces with the rioters and wanting to ban guns.....

The only true power a governing body has is violence, and threat of violence, and these guys have that noted and applied. Our only true response, as citizens is also violence, specifically the latent power in civilian gun ownership, enmass, as a check to the violence a government has and will use. Wetoo, must be willing to use the Rights we have, specifically in the case of self defense, even if its violent

Besides Harris is also antigun, who would end up as prez when Quid Pro Joe is Impeached 17 seconds after he's inaugurated, but even then its likely to be case dismissed when hes found mentally incompetent for trial......and if they get Buttjudge in the Executive cabinet, with his view on our AKs and ARs.......well, whoa-now....
 

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Good thing the moderators don't allow political topics here or I would start posting up a list of lies told.
I believe the forum is Sound Off/RKBA. IIRC, RKBA refers to the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
 

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So if I’m reading correctly, President Trump wants to punish the criminal and Joe Biden wants to punish gun owners. Weird.

Oddly, I learned today that if you go to the ANTIFA website, ANTIFA.com, it takes you directly to Joe Biden’s election page. It’s scary to think that Joe, Kamala, and ANTIFA have openly joined forces. Actually, it’s scarier that half of our great Country is ok with that.

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It absolutely does take you to Biden's campaign asking for donations.

It is not surprising that Bidens platform calls for the disarming of the populace. He has become hostage to the Progressive agenda. In order to enact that agenda such as the plan to take over the suburbs in a Soviet style communal housing they will need a disarmed and compliant populace. This is in addition to taking disposable income from the working populace to enact social reforms such as universal healthcare, Green New Deal, and other progressive Social programs.

This de facto annexation strategy had three parts: (1) use a kind of quota system to force “economic integration” on the suburbs, pushing urban residents outside of the city; (2) close down suburban growth by regulating development, restricting automobile use, and limiting highway growth and repair, thus forcing would-be suburbanites back to the city; (3) use state and federal laws to force suburbs to redistribute tax revenue to poorer cities in their greater metropolitan region. If you force urbanites into suburbs, force suburbanites back into cities, and redistribute suburban tax revenue, then presto! You have effectively abolished the suburbs.
Once Biden starts to enforce AFFH the way Obama’s administration originally meant it to work, it will be as if America’s suburbs had been swallowed up by the cities they surround. They will lose control of their own zoning and development, they will be pressured into a kind of de facto regional-revenue redistribution, and they will even be forced to start building high-density low-income housing. The latter, of course, will require the elimination of single-family zoning. With that, the basic character of the suburbs will disappear.
The Booker approach — now endorsed by Biden — may block even this way out. Booker wants to hold suburban zoning hostage not only to HUD grants, but to the federal transportation grants used by states to build and repair highways. It may be next to impossible for suburbs to opt out of those state-run highway repairs. Otherwise, suburban roads will deteriorate and suburban access to major arteries will be blocked. AFFH plus the Booker plan will leave America’s suburbs with no alternative but to eliminate their single-family zoning and turn over their planning to the feds.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/biden-and-dems-are-set-to-abolish-the-suburbs/

Taking away your 2nd Amendment Right to Keep and Bear Arms is key to enacting other policy initiatives under the Progressive Agenda. It is much harder to suppress the rights of an armed population. The fact the Biden Campaign and the Democratic Mayors / State Governors /District Attorney's have supported and enabled the violence only highlights the need for the citizenry to be able to defend themselves.

At least 13 Biden campaign staff members posted on Twitter on Friday and Saturday that they made donations to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which opposes the practice of cash bail, or making people pay to avoid pre-trial imprisonment. The group uses donations to pay bail fees in Minneapolis.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-biden-bail-idUSKBN2360SZ

It seems very hard to reconcile those actions with:

Vice President tweeted. “We need to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-pushes-gun-control-less-than-24-hours-after-attempted-assassination-on-deputies


With the NRA being tied up by Democrats in court over a politically motivated lawsuit. It would be helpful to discuss both the effectiveness of the NRA and alternatives to fight for our freedom.

The NRA appears to be still actively working within the political process:

https://www.nraila.org/

Any thoughts on the 2nd Amendment Foundation has lackluster charity ratings but appears to be more active in the local/state instead of the National Lobby dominated by the NRA.

https://www.saf.org/category/legal/
 

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Oddly, I learned today that if you go to the ANTIFA website, ANTIFA.com, it takes you directly to Joe Biden’s election page. It’s scary to think that Joe, Kamala, and ANTIFA have openly joined forces. Actually, it’s scarier that half of our great Country is ok with that.
The NEW NSDAP= National Socialist Democrat Antifa Partei !!!!
 

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If this is the shooting where the gunman walked up to the parked police cruiser, the perp used a handgun. So why is sleepy Joe pushing for an assault rifle ban? Sleepy Joe and the rest of the Democrat mob are idiots, plain and simple.

Joe wants us to think he's so tough, yet he again wants to punish the law abiding and not get tough on the bad guys. Real tough there Joe.Typical Democrat response. Should be a wakeup call to anyone who loves freedom to vote against this walking turd.
 

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If this is the shooting where the gunman walked up to the parked police cruiser, the perp used a handgun. So why is sleepy Joe pushing for an assault rifle ban? Sleepy Joe and the rest of the Democrat mob are idiots, plain and simple.

Joe wants us to think he's so tough, yet he again wants to punish the law abiding and not get tough on the bad guys. Real tough there Joe.Typical Democrat response. Should be a wakeup call to anyone who loves freedom to vote against this walking turd.
Exactly, Democrat gun control has nothing to do with reducing gun violence. It is about people control not crime.
 

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No worse than those whack jobs QAnon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

SinQAnon[SUP][a][/SUP] (/kjuːəˈnɒn/) is a far-rightconspiracy theory[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles running a global child sex-trafficking ring is plotting against President Donald Trump, who is battling them,[SUP][8][/SUP] leading to a "day of reckoning" involving the mass arrest of journalists and politicians.[SUP][9][/SUP] No part of the theory is based on fact.[SUP][10][/SUP][SUP][11][/SUP][SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP]
Although preceded by similar viral conspiracies such as Pizzagate[SUP][14][/SUP], the theory proper began with an October 2017 post on the anonymousimageboard4chan by "Q", who was presumably an American individual,[SUP][15][/SUP] but probably became a group of people.[SUP][16][/SUP][SUP][17][/SUP] Q claimed to have access to classified information involving the Trump administration and its opponents in the United States. NBC News found that three people took the original Q post and expanded it across multiple media platforms to build internet followings for profit. QAnon was preceded by several similar anonymous 4chan posters, such as FBIAnon, HLIAnon (High-Level Insider), CIAAnon, and WH Insider Anon.[SUP][18][/SUP]ce

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/02/fact-check-antifa-com-redirects-joe-biden-site-hes-not-involved/3455297001/
NameCheap offers a privacy protection service to its clients, it is impossible to know who exactly owns the domain and set the redirection. USA TODAY was unable to reach NameCheap CEO Richard Kirkendall for comment.

Biden not connected

Matt Hill, deputy national press secretary for the Biden campaign, referred USA TODAY to a tweet Monday from Biden's digital director, Rob Flaherty.


"So whoever owns http://antifa.com is redirecting it to our website as a troll. … The VP very obviously has/wants nothing to do with fringe groups," Flaherty said.
Our ruling: Missing context

We rate this claim as MISSING CONTEXT. It is true the antifa.com domain redirects to JoeBiden.com. It is unknown who exactly owns the domain and has been redirecting traffic to the Biden campaign's website. The claim lacks context given that the Biden campaign denies any association with the antifa.com website.

Keep conspiracy theory to a minimum and no politics. This is a discussion of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms based upon current election platforms. There is nothing in your post that has do with RKBA.
 

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Antifa is NOT anti-gun. Antifa is a decentralized movement and has no real leader per se.

And that website got bought up by someone who is not connected to Biden. All that junk is fake news.
 

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Here is the Democratic Parties current platform for this election on issues dealing with our Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

In 1994, Biden – along with Senator Dianne Feinstein – secured the passage of 10-year bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. As president, Joe Biden will defeat the NRA again.
Joe Biden also knows how to make progress on reducing gun violence using executive action.
Hold gun manufacturers accountable.In 2005, then-Senator Biden voted against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, but gun manufacturers successfully lobbied Congress to secure its passage. This law protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.
The bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that Biden, along with Senator Feinstein, secured in 1994 reduced the lethality of mass shootings. But, in order to secure the passage of the bans, they had to agree to a 10-year sunset provision and when the time came, the Bush Administration failed to extend them. As president, Biden will:
Biden will also use his executive authority to ban the importation of assault weapons.
His plan is to circumvent the Constitution by Legislating from the Executive Branch.

As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.
No grandfathering.

This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.
In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.
Biden will enact universal background check legislation
In 2016, the Obama-Biden Administration finalized a rule to make sure the Social Security Administration (SSA) sends to the background check system records that it holds of individuals who are prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms because they have been adjudicated by the SSA as unable to manage their affairs for mental reasons. But one of the first actions Donald Trump took as president was to reverse this rule. President Biden will enact legislation to codify this policy.
Close the “Charleston loophole.” The Charleston loophole allows people to complete a firearms purchase if their background check is not completed within three business days.
End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions. Biden will enact legislation to prohibit all online sales of firearms, ammunition, kits, and gun parts.
Create an effective program to ensure individuals who become prohibited from possessing firearms relinquish their weapons.
So when the stroke of the pen is complete; they can come get your rifle.

Incentivize state “extreme risk” laws. Extreme risk laws, also called “red flag” laws, enable family members or law enforcement officials to temporarily remove an individual’s access to firearms when that individual is in crisis and poses a danger to themselves or others. Biden will incentivize the adoption of these laws by giving states funds to implement them.
Dedicate the brightest scientific minds to solving the gun violence public health epidemic.
In 2013, President Obama issued a memorandum clarifying that a longstanding appropriations rider that prohibited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other federal scientific agencies from using federal dollars to “advocate or promote gun control” does not prohibit those agencies from researching the causes and prevention of gun violence. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) subsequently embarked on funding some of this research, though Republican leadership in Congress refused to appropriate any funds to the CDC for this work.
Sounds like Biden plans to run roughshod over the Constitution. Why is the CDC and other Federal agencies prohibited from studying Gun Control Constitutionally? It is to prevent bad actors within the Government from declaring gun ownership a mental condition.

We should be passing rational gun laws, not requiring educators who already have too much on their plates to also protect the safety of their students. Biden supports barring states from using federal dollars to arm or train educators to discharge firearms.
So Biden will make our children less safe by removing the most effective protection they have against the unlikely event of criminal engaging in a mass shooting attempt?

The Democrats entire Anti-Gun Platform can be read right off Biden's website.

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/
 

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Antifa is NOT anti-gun. Antifa is a decentralized movement and has no real leader per se.

And that website got bought up by someone who is not connected to Biden. All that junk is fake news.
Denial is the first step you have to overcome when you admit you have a problem. Defending and minimizing a terrorist organization, that has proven it is capable of looting, burning and destroying businesses along with murder to accomplish their goals is the height of denial . I think estaban has contracted the "SGT Schultz" disease, he "sees nothing" !!!!!!!
 

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Pinkie, skip the personal comments, they are insults. How about commenting on the discussion, not the people.
 

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Nearly All Mass Shooters Since 1966 Have Had 4 Things in Common _ They be white and racist.https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a35mya/nearly-all-mass-shooters-since-1966-have-had-four-things-in-common
https://news.sky.com/story/why-are-white-men-more-likely-to-carry-out-mass-shootings-11252808

Why are white men carrying out more mass shootings?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/04/us/white-extremist-active-shooter.html
You dont wanna go there pal. Add up all the blacks and Hispanics that kill each other on a daily basis in this country and it dwarves every white mass shooter a hundred times over.
 

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Everything is white and racist according to some just as the Jew caused all problems 70 years ago to others but this is not that thread.

In reading over the Democrats agenda it appears to be the most comprehensive threat to our 2nd Amendment rights I have ever seen.
 

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Pinkie, skip the personal comments, they are insults. How about commenting on the discussion, not the people.
So we have to get into it with him regardless of his meritless accusations ?? What he says is so patently false and foolish, it's like arguing with someone who's been committed. Case in point, the "Black Liberation Movement" of the '70,s,'80's murdered over 2000 people for no other reason than it was their dogma. Here he calls us all Racists by inference suggesting that anyone who defends himself , and is white, is a "Racist". I know he's your buddy and you defend him against the rest of us, but he's so radical in what he says, and almost all of it is just his , you have to think he's here just for the action, not the information.
 

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Estaban> ES= TA=BAN >your rights because of no fore sight acquisition misses the target!
 
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