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Probably old news but the media , if they can be believed, just said the libtard shooter used an SKS. While it doesn't really matter what he used in his subhuman act, I wonder. Using the most common, and usually least expensive "high power" semiautomatic rifle has some latent concerns for us all. They did say it was "legally purchased" which may be a plus but opens door to the Antis using the SKS as target. If it still had a fixed magazine it appears it was just as quickly reloaded as a real assault rifle if not as accurate. The left is being disturbingly quiet on gun control but i personally am waiting for the inevitable onslaught.
 

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I had also heard that he had an SKS and a 9mm pistol of some sort. This guys facebook posts (that I've seen) read like a CNN / Time-Warner "news" report or typical Trump bashing panel session. I wonder how they will handle their own type of rhetoric being used to justify such a terrible crime? This may account for some of the silence. I'm sure that the anti's gears are grinding away. Can't let a tragedy go to waste you know. Shame that he wasn't taken alive.
 

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Can't find the link now but someone described the SKS used in the shooting as a derivative of the AK47?!?!?! Sort of like the 93 million killed by guns each day.
Will be interesting to see exactly what it is.

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Can't find the link now but someone described the SKS used in the shooting as a derivative of the AK47?!?!?! Sort of like the 93 million killed by guns each day.
Will be interesting to see exactly what it is.

Gary
And capable of a 20 or 30 round capacity. One of the first comments out of Wolf.
 

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I had also heard that he had an SKS and a 9mm pistol of some sort. This guys facebook posts (that I've seen) read like a CNN / Time-Warner "news" report or typical Trump bashing panel session. I wonder how they will handle their own type of rhetoric being used to justify such a terrible crime? This may account for some of the silence. I'm sure that the anti's gears are grinding away. Can't let a tragedy go to waste you know. Shame that he wasn't taken alive.
??????????????????? why is that a shame? Strikes me as a happy outcome. Not as if we would torture him to get a claim he'd been paid to do it by DNC or such....
 

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??????????????????? why is that a shame? Strikes me as a happy outcome. Not as if we would torture him to get a claim he'd been paid to do it by DNC or such....[/QUOTE

Don't get me wrong. Not a bad outcome given the circumstances. It would have been let's say, possibly productive, to question him on his motives and not rely on what we are told otherwise. I'm just waiting on the spin. Maybe I was being a little sarcastic with the word shame.
 

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??????????????????? why is that a shame? Strikes me as a happy outcome. Not as if we would torture him to get a claim he'd been paid to do it by DNC or such....[/QUOTE

Don't get me wrong. Not a bad outcome given the circumstances. It would have been let's say, possibly productive, to question him on his motives and not rely on what we are told otherwise. I'm just waiting on the spin. Maybe I was being a little sarcastic with the word shame.
I think I have seen a bit of buildup for anti-gun tirade on some of web net news.
Problem with a lot of these incidents is that the antis can look at this and talk about how the things are so dangerous nobody should be able to have them and gun control laws are ineffective. Libs and mainstream media will ALWAYS pick and choose these incidents and typically never report cases were a private civilian stopped a crime with a gun.
I also suspect some editorials about how it's Trump's fault for dragging down the political rhetoric and his hate speech. Funny how it appears to me that it's all on the liberal end, along with the violence that they blame Trump for inciting.
The Big Lie in action. Goebbels must be insanely jealous in his grave. Or any former Pravda editors.
 

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I'm stumped on the assault pistol comment. Maybe because it was black? Also, if the Democrat socialist purchased his weapons in Illinois, he passed a background check, had a waiting period, and had a state issued FOID card. Still, I saw a lib on Fox news call for more background checks, closing gun show loophole (whatever the hell that means), etc. The libs have all their talking points ready. I suspect they'll starting blaming the guns and law abiding gun owners in the next day or two.
 

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Politico magazine - which is close to being a Democratic Party house organ - has said that the Dems are afraid to touch gun control this time because it never goes anywhere and it hurts them at the polls.

I would hope it has sunk in that it just doesn't work, but maybe that's asking too much of politicians. :mad
 

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Politico magazine - which is close to being a Democratic Party house organ - has said that the Dems are afraid to touch gun control this time because it never goes anywhere and it hurts them at the polls.

I would hope it has sunk in that it just doesn't work, but maybe that's asking too much of politicians. :mad
Heard Gabby Gifford's puppet-master opining that more control is needed, to keep criminals and crazies from getting guns. Follow the rules in Taxachussetts he suggested. They have a low rate, he claims, of firearms used criminally there.
 

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I'm stumped on the assault pistol comment. Maybe because it was black? Also, if the Democrat socialist purchased his weapons in Illinois, he passed a background check, had a waiting period, and had a state issued FOID card. Still, I saw a lib on Fox news call for more background checks, closing gun show loophole (whatever the hell that means), etc. The libs have all their talking points ready. I suspect they'll starting blaming the guns and law abiding gun owners in the next day or two.
Actually they are blaming Sarah Palin as of this AM.

N.Y. Slimes Editorial yesterday.

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Was this attack evidence of how vicious American politics has become? Probably. In 2011, when Jared Lee Loughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot, grievously wounding Representative Gabby Giffords and killing six people, including a 9-year-old girl, the link to political incitement was clear. Before the shooting, Sarah Palin’s political action committee circulated a map of targeted electoral districts that put Ms. Giffords and 19 other Democrats under stylized cross hairs.
Their claim in 2011 was demonstrably false, a lie, and they have dusted it off to re-tell the exact same lie.

Less than 12 hrs. after publishing, they couldn't backpedal fast enough, or far enough, and, along with editing the original editorial:
An earlier version of this editorial incorrectly stated that a link existed between political incitement and the 2011 shooting of Representative Gabby Giffords,” the correction reads. “In fact, no such link was established.”
The editorial initially stated there was a “clear link” from Palin’s rhetoric to Giffords’ shooting, as a means of justifying the board’s decision not to place the same kind of blame on Democrats for the baseball shooting.
 

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Some moron on Fox News said the rifle was powerful enough to kill an elephant! D'oh.

It all pretty much illustrates the problem with the News Media, including traditional print and broadcast, cable and amateur internet types. They pretend to know everything about everything, but are less knowledgeable than the average citizen about any specific area of interest to said average citizen. This doltishness covers the entire spectrum from Wolf Blitzer to Alex Jones.
The result is we get fed a pile of BS by these poseurs unless they have the brains and time to consult with an expert, which is increasingly less likely during a 24/7 news cycle with breaking stories.
 

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It's not just the media.

About 98% of the country neither knows nor cares what the difference is between an SKS, an AK, or a side-by-side shotgun. If it shoots projectiles and has a shoulder thing that goes up, it is de facto evil.

On this board, we can usefully use terms like "fixed magazine" and "semiautomatic." Whether we like it or not, we do not live in a society where most people can do so. Stop wishing for it; you'll just get an ulcer. Expecting "the public" to be able to meaningfully debate and comprehend any legislative ramifications of this crime without pissing us off is a useless exercise.

It's about the media, sure, but it's also about education. We just don't live in the same world anymore.

ETA: I'm watching coverage of the parade of sail in Boston right now, which is fascinating. But the news anchors keep calling everything a "ship," while the expert dude they've got to provide color commentary keeps pointing out that there are differences between topsail schooners, brigantines, barks, ships, brigs, etc. the anchors keep cutting him off because, well, listening to him is a little tiresome.

He's right, but 99% of the public neither knows nor cares about what he's trying to say. The anchors know that if they let him go on, the viewers will simply change the channel.

We've got the same problem.
 

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Some moron on Fox News said the rifle was powerful enough to kill an elephant! D'oh.
I don't disagree with your assessment of know it all news reporters, BUT:

Somewhere back in there among the rest of the brain cells I haven't yet killed is a dim recollection of the story of a Native American woman who killed a black bear with one shot from a .22 Long Rifle (Shot through the eye into the brain, if I recall. Talk about luck!),

Killing an elephant with an SKS just MIGHT not be all that outrageous, especially when you see the size of animals (specifically rhinoceroses) that poachers have taken down in Africa. Many of those poachers are armed with AK's. They never mentioned anything about one shot kills.

I can think of ammunition I would PREFER to use, but I wouldn't rule this possibility completely out.
 

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I don't disagree with your assessment of know it all news reporters, BUT:

Somewhere back in there among the rest of the brain cells I haven't yet killed is a dim recollection of the story of a Native American woman who killed a black bear with one shot from a .22 Long Rifle (Shot through the eye into the brain, if I recall. Talk about luck!),

Killing an elephant with an SKS just MIGHT not be all that outrageous, especially when you see the size of animals (specifically rhinoceroses) that poachers have taken down in Africa. Many of those poachers are armed with AK's. They never mentioned anything about one shot kills.

I can think of ammunition I would PREFER to use, but I wouldn't rule this possibility completely out.
That bear with a .22 might have been good shooting instead of just good luck. Wouldn't be my first choice, but if the option was a .22 or a stick or a rock, I'd take the .22, you betcha.

Been a lot of big critters, including elephant, killed with guns chambered in 7.62x39. Might even be a one-shot kill by somebody loaded with ball and a cool, skilled shot. But probably a mag dump by several bad people, followed by waiting for the critter to eventually (up to a week) die. I guess that makes it "powerful enough to kill an elephant".
 

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The uneducated vote on matters that they have no idea what they mean, the cost, or the impacts. Criminal. You need to take a test to drive but cumulative self destruction is ok?
Thats the problem with rights. Anyone can exercise them, and no there shouldn't be tests. If you have to pass a test your exercise your rights, then they're not rights.

Frankly, I'm surprised I'd need to point that out on a firearms board...

in my state, the hoops in place before we can exercise our 2a rights are abominable, but they're there. That doesn't mean it's okay to erect more barriers before other rights; it means all the barriers should be abolished.

It's too bad voters are dumb. But that's the peril of democracy.
 
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