I am through with the interstice period, and am now importing from the Second Board (31st August 2003 to 16th August 2007). So, all threads should have their first initial posting, and the right sequence of responses too.
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Matthew Pahl
Gunboards Member
13 Posts
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 11:34:47 PM
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Hi Folks. I have a 1916 CG Target Rifle with a Soderin sight. I shot 3-shot .75" groups at 100 yards with this with Vanasverken ammo made in 1987. This is the best shooting of my life! I only had a box of twenty. I want to duplicate this load exactly ...OAL...powder...etc. Do you guys have any info on how or specs? thanks!
Rev. Two Bands
Gunboards.Com Gold Star Member
1022 Posts
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 9:14:31 PM
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Well, get thyself a reloading manual and start experimenting !
P. Greaney
Gunboards Member
74 Posts
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 10:50:53 PM
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I also have a rifle such as you describe and wanted to approximate the Swedish surplus ammo with the 139 grain bullet. I went to a website that I don't remember now and took the statistics of the ammo in meters per second and converted it to feet per second then went to my Sierra manual and loaded up what I thought was the equivalent to achieve the feet per second using IMR 4895 and used the Sierra 140 gr HPBT and went to the range. All I could say was "wow" it performed very well I shot it at five hundred yards and was amazed and so was everyone else watching. Sorry I can't give you particulars as the information is not available to me at this time.
aviator
Starting Member
9 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2003 : 5:24:57 PM
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Try the following: Trim your brass to 54,9mm use a CCI200 large rifle
primer load it with 38,0 grains of N140 seat a LAPUA B343 (144grains)
bullet to get a 79,0mm OAL.
Each of my 7 swedish rifles (m96,m38,m63) likes this load the best.
If you like to work with complicated inches(swedish rifles do not)
One inch equals 25,4mm.
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And I shall add one posting from Wartuna, in another thread (which was named "Load for CG m96 (1909)"), during the interstice:
Quote Wartuna
Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 6:49am
You are right, Varget is a bit on the fast side. I have had best results with H4350. Besides Varget, others I have tried are IMR 4350 (a bit dirty), N160 ( not so accurate), and N550 (OK but not as accurate or clean as H4350). Certainly there are other choices. I use 40 grains of H4350 -- a bit on the light side but easily tolerated by the rifle and the brass (19 reloads on one batch so far). You will never find the lands on a CG barrel with 139/140/142 g bullets as the chambers of Swede Mausers are very generous and the throats are tapered. However, you might with 160 g bullets -- but why? I use Sierra 140 g HPBT slugs and load them to and overall length of 3.127 in -- which is longer than the factory recommendation. Since I have a number of Swedes, I always full length size the cases (Swedes have surprisingly different chambers) and crimp the bullets (due to controlled feed and I use a Lee factory crimp die). If you have a good barrel and eyes, you may find your groups to be an embarrassment to those using scoped hunting rifles and factory ammo.
FWIW,
Newbie Walt
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Author Topic
Matthew Pahl
Gunboards Member
13 Posts
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 11:34:47 PM
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Hi Folks. I have a 1916 CG Target Rifle with a Soderin sight. I shot 3-shot .75" groups at 100 yards with this with Vanasverken ammo made in 1987. This is the best shooting of my life! I only had a box of twenty. I want to duplicate this load exactly ...OAL...powder...etc. Do you guys have any info on how or specs? thanks!
Rev. Two Bands
Gunboards.Com Gold Star Member
1022 Posts
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 9:14:31 PM
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Well, get thyself a reloading manual and start experimenting !
P. Greaney
Gunboards Member
74 Posts
Posted - 09/30/2003 : 10:50:53 PM
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I also have a rifle such as you describe and wanted to approximate the Swedish surplus ammo with the 139 grain bullet. I went to a website that I don't remember now and took the statistics of the ammo in meters per second and converted it to feet per second then went to my Sierra manual and loaded up what I thought was the equivalent to achieve the feet per second using IMR 4895 and used the Sierra 140 gr HPBT and went to the range. All I could say was "wow" it performed very well I shot it at five hundred yards and was amazed and so was everyone else watching. Sorry I can't give you particulars as the information is not available to me at this time.
aviator
Starting Member
9 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2003 : 5:24:57 PM
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Try the following: Trim your brass to 54,9mm use a CCI200 large rifle
primer load it with 38,0 grains of N140 seat a LAPUA B343 (144grains)
bullet to get a 79,0mm OAL.
Each of my 7 swedish rifles (m96,m38,m63) likes this load the best.
If you like to work with complicated inches(swedish rifles do not)
One inch equals 25,4mm.
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And I shall add one posting from Wartuna, in another thread (which was named "Load for CG m96 (1909)"), during the interstice:
Quote Wartuna
Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 6:49am
You are right, Varget is a bit on the fast side. I have had best results with H4350. Besides Varget, others I have tried are IMR 4350 (a bit dirty), N160 ( not so accurate), and N550 (OK but not as accurate or clean as H4350). Certainly there are other choices. I use 40 grains of H4350 -- a bit on the light side but easily tolerated by the rifle and the brass (19 reloads on one batch so far). You will never find the lands on a CG barrel with 139/140/142 g bullets as the chambers of Swede Mausers are very generous and the throats are tapered. However, you might with 160 g bullets -- but why? I use Sierra 140 g HPBT slugs and load them to and overall length of 3.127 in -- which is longer than the factory recommendation. Since I have a number of Swedes, I always full length size the cases (Swedes have surprisingly different chambers) and crimp the bullets (due to controlled feed and I use a Lee factory crimp die). If you have a good barrel and eyes, you may find your groups to be an embarrassment to those using scoped hunting rifles and factory ammo.
FWIW,
Newbie Walt