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smlekid
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 05:35:12 AM
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I am loading 41gn of H4350 with 140gn Sierra Matchkings in my M38 they are tack holers it shoots the 140gn Gamekings OK but not as well as the matchkings of a bench at 100m the MK's will shoot around 1" groups the Gamekings about 1 1/2-1 3/4" so they both shoot OK!!!!!!!!!



Wildalaska
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 7:13:21 PM
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I use 44 grains of RL22 in Lapua cases, Fed 210M primers, OAL 3.100...for the M41B i use Lapua scenars 139 grains, for my M96 or M38 or M94 I use the 140Match Kings. This duplicates military ball, in the M94 it only runs about 2100 fps. RL22 is the closest thing to swedish military powder out there (and its madxe in sweden too)


shootist87122
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 12:58:34 PM
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My best results for the M94 & M38/96 is 37.8 grains of IMR4895 with the Seirra 140 grain HP. The spitzer bullet shoots just as good, IMO. COL is 3.015". My 1907 CG M38/96 has outstanding accuracy with this load. The sights on the M94 are hard on my 56 year old eyes, but it still puts up very respectable groups with this load.

For the long rifles (M41b & M96) I like Wildalaska's RL22 load with Lapua 139s. I load everything in Lapua brass and use either Fed 210M or CCI BR2 primers.

Check all loads against a good manual, but always work up carefully for your rifles. FWIW, the RL22 load using 44 grains is well below book maximum, but is close to maximum pressure in one of my M96 rifles, but fine in the M41b.
 

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jmm03
Posted - 08/15/2005 : 9:50:01 PM
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Hi all,ive had good luck using sierra 142hpbt in front of 37 grains of Accurate XMR 4064 either in lapua or remington cases,but it seems to be getting pricierand i am thinking of trying something new.Has anyone used Accurate 2520 powder and would you mind sharing your thoughts on it? Usually I shoot either a 44 Husqvarna M96 or a 09 CG with a Helquist rear and an unknown type (not an elit or GF) front globe,usually at 100 yards in a local vintage military match.Thanks,jim

Wildalaska
Posted - 08/15/2005 : 10:48:01 PM
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Hi my pet load for my three of my swedes is 44garins Reloader 22 with a 140 grain match king in Lapau cases with a 210M primer. Yesterday i was using that load and out busting those little clay birds (the 2 inchers) at 100 yards with my 1903 Gustaf 96 with a metellaverken rear and a 100 yard front


houstonfrank
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 10:06:12 AM
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I also use RL22 ahead of WLR primers with very good results. I am running a little hotter at 46 gr. ahead of the 142 gr Sierra match bullet, but I am getting well under 1" at a hundred yds with a scoped Remington 700. Down side is it isn't any cheaper.


shootist87122
Posted - 08/16/2005 : 10:19:02 PM
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As noted in the two posts above, RL22 is one of the best powders for the long rifles and 139 to 140 grain bullets. Use caution, however as the maximum charge can vary greatly from rifle to rifle. (AMHIK)


geekay
Posted - 08/18/2005 : 09:16:13 AM
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123gn Lapua HPBT on top of 39grns ADI2208 (Varget) for 6mm @100 and 140gn Sierra GK on top of 40 grns of the same for 20mm @ 100. Have no idea of velocity but very effective on metallic silhouettes.


spille
Posted - 08/19/2005 : 7:40:44 PM
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I've had real good results with 37 grns of XMR 4064 with 142 Sierra HPBT match bullets and WLR primers.


boltactionsforever
Posted - 08/22/2005 : 1:18:54 PM
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I have toyed with many of the different kind of spitzer shaped bullets and just can find a happy medium for consistancy like many other have for the 6.5 Swede....The problem with using a spitzer shaped bullet is normally you can not get the bullet close to the rifling too close up the free bore....And the closer you can put the bullet to the rifling the better...I personally like .010-.015 and have seen great improvements when closing up the free bore on just about any rifle with handloads...

My all time favorite load for the swede's is

160g round nose hornady bullet...
40g IMR4350
Winchester large rifle primers
OAL 3.100...

You should measure and taylor each and every rifle's seating depth...But most Swede's will swallow 3.100 with these bullets--I have some m96's that can take 3.175!..wow...94 swede's are normally a lot shorter--measure each and every gun!

The bullet will hang way out of the brass just like the early original round nose projectiles for the Swede's...

Here are a few of the reasons for the 160g hornady's

The sectional density about the best you can get for a center fire rifle---this is a big help down range...

The bearing surface is a lot greater then the spitzer shaped projectiles....helps with stability right from the get-go..

And when you "play" up and down with the 40g IMR 4350 load, the +/- 1g does not substancially change the pattern or grouping....

There is a very intense study about the +/- 1g up and down on the following web site---it will give handloaders a lot to think about---expecially when you see significant changes in slight load changing weights with the loads your currently using....

http://home.earthlink.net/~dannewberry/dannewberrysoptimalchargeweightloaddevelopment/

Hope this helps...
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Spector
Posted - 08/25/2005 : 2:41:50 PM
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I've heard all the arguments for seating bullets near rifling. In general I agree with that argument, BUT in my Swedes my most accurate bullet is an 85 grain JHP over IMR4064 using CCI primers. This short bullet has to make quite a jump in that freebore, but is a stellar performer. I fired 20 in 5 shot groups from the bench at 100 yards that averaged 9/16'' ctc.

My next most accurate bullet is the Hornady 160 grain RN over RL22. I haven't had much luck with bullets in between 85 grain and 160 grain. Strange, but that's been my experience.........Mike
 

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Smokepole50
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 9:00:42 PM
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Did the Swedish snipers use the standard 1941 ammo or was it a special loading?

If anyone has worked up a load for there M41B I would be interested to know if your rifle liked the normally good loads in a 96 or something a bit different.

I have been using 140 gr Sierra Game Kings and around 46.0gr of RL-22 powder in my 96's with great success. Anyone tried this load in a M41B?



Wildalaska
Posted - 03/16/2006 : 7:34:12 PM
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Im not at my bench but I use as I recall 139 scenar in Lapua cases, 44 grains RL22 with a 21M primer loaded to 3.150 OAL. That OAL is good for me maybe not for you. Best 5 shot group with that load is .396.
 

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GjMan
Posted - 04/10/2006 : 8:30:38 PM
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Don't have a CG63 (yet), but here's what all my Swedes--several 96s and a Husky 38--seem to like. Use a Sierra 140 Match King bullet over 43.0 grains of IMR 4831. I use both Winchester and Lapua brass. Whatever brass, all cases are weighed and grouped into batches measuring no more than one grain difference in weight; then the cases are trimmed, deburred, chamfered, the flashholes and primer pockets uniformed. I use CCI standard large rifle primers, but I've also used other brands with equal success. Can't give a cartridge OAL, as I measure it differently from most. My loaded rounds are just short enough to fit into the mag.

There's a lot of differing info as to what charge of 4831 is max for 140-gr bullets. Hodgdon lists 47 as max, but other manuals give lower maxes, like 44. At 43 grains, I get 2700 FPS out of my M96s, so this is not exactly a starting load.

Others will chime in with their loads, but this one works for me. I know lotta guys like Sierra 142 MKs and Reloder 22, but I've never gotten either bullet or powder to shoot as well as the 4831 and 140 MK combo.

I understand CG63s may have a different rifling twist from 96s and 38s, and probably different throat lengths as well. So what works well in my rifles may not be the best in yours.


robert8551
Posted - 04/10/2006 : 9:47:20 PM
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I have a CG63 and I feed it with Sierra 140 gr HPBT and 35.8 gr Varget and Winchester primers. I shoot 200yds and get excellent results.
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Hag
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 11:19:49 AM
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What distances are you planning to shoot? Fortier's article about the CG63 in the Shotgun News, Volume 59-Issue 17 provides excellent load data for the CG63. i.e.
139 Lapua Scenar, case Lapua, RL22 48.1 ,OAL 3.176, Vel. 2822, group .75;
140 Hornady V-Max, case Lapua, RL22 48.1, OAL 3.176, Vel. 2822, group .50.

My experience, so far, just starting to shoot 1000 yards is that the 139 Lapua Scenar, 130 Norma, 142 MK, 140 V-Max , with Lapua or Winchester cases, WLR primers, RL22 up to 48.3 grains are all very accurate loads. The ogive I use is very long ,just off the lands. Cartridges are too long to fit in magazine. Been shooting the M96's for years using only AA2700 powder. Very accurate. Easy to load. Powder meters consistently. 42.3 grains is a long range load for me, but I prefer RL22 because I believe the pressure is lower.
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jmm03
Posted - 04/11/2006 : 7:23:52 PM
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sierra 142gr.hpbt,accurate XMR-4064 36-38 gr.,win large primers,lapua or remington cases,oal 3.200, slower powders appear to work better than faster,4064 is not particularly slow but is a good all around powder,is shorter cut than IMR,meters better.
you really have to try several powders and bullet weights to find the most consistantly accurate load at various conditions,sometimes a very time consuming task.hope this helps.
 

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texaggie77
Posted - 05/29/2006 : 11:53:25 PM
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Here's my recipe that performs EXCELLENT at 200yds:

Sierra 140gr HPBT
H1000 48.0 grains
Winchester Large Rifle primers
Winchester brass


jim in Oregon
Posted - 05/30/2006 : 10:11:18 AM
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I like Lapua brass, WLR primers, standard OAL-TRIM, 140 grain Sierra BTSP bullets, 46.5 grains of REL 22 for my M96.


pogue
Posted - 05/30/2006 : 11:52:20 PM
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140gr Sierra BTSP and 35gr of 4895 gives the group below off a bench at 100yds.

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142 gr Sierra HPBT MatchKing, 170 gr Cast Lead

Tom in Pittsburgh
Posted - 10/15/2006 : 3:16:10 PM
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My best jacketed load in my 1900 Oberndorf consists of 142-grain Sierra HPBT Matchking bullets over 44.0 grains of H4350. This is a stout, hot load, but I once managed to put ten shots off the bench at 100 yards into a 1-3/4-inch group using the rifle's original open iron sights.

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HOWEVER, this load pales by comparison to my favorite cast bullet load -- consisting of 170-grain bullets cast from a custom Lee mould over 16.5 grains of Accurate Powder's XMP-5744.

This load recently produced a 100-yard five-shot load of .766 inches off the bench with open iron sights. I've never previously shot any military rifle with issue iron sights with any load that would put five rounds under an inch at 100 yards, cast or jacketed.

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Remark by Carcano: Here is the link to the old cast bullet thread. Please import it as a separate topic of its own, it does not really belong here under the subject header.
http://old.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=189022
 

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Long range load

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Posted - 11/24/2006 : 1:50:03 PM
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A good long range load is 139-142gr bullets with about 44-45grs of IMR 4530. I use this load at 600 and 1000 yards and it works great.
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Mild load?

Wartuna
Posted - 12/03/2006 : 5:29:40 PM
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I started with 37 grains of IMR 4350 behind 140 gr Sierra HPBTs. Works for me -- might for you. I worked up to 39 and 40 grains and you might also find it best to be on the safe side with older weapons -- especially if you have not had the rifle checked out by a gunsmith. I am also setting the OAL a bit on the long side -- but I am also only loading 4 in the magazine to accommodate the longer bullets.
 

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Smokepole50
Posted - 01/11/2007 : 8:48:24 PM
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Most 6.5x55 Swedish mauser shooters find IMR4064 and RL-22 to be in the best powder cat. when loading 140 grain bullets. The 140's and 160 grain bullets are going to be the best choice for accuracy in the M96.

My personal load in 46.0 or 46.5 gr of RL-22, Rem LR primer and a 140gr Sierra GameKing. Most all of my Sweds love this load.

You should use a medium burn rate powder in a Swede with light, below 140 gr, bullets to help protect yourself from possible problems that can arise. The long throat of a Swede and short bullets can combined with slow to ignigte powders in bad ways, IE very high pressures. This statement is based on what I have read and I try to follow it. So far I have had no problems with IMR4350 and 120 gr bullets but I shelved my Nosler 100 grainers out of caution.


Hag
Posted - 01/12/2007 : 01:13:33 AM
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Are you loading for hunting or target shooting? If for targets, its best to use match bullets. If shooting 300 yards or less, flat based bullets may be the most accurate. Longer distances require boat tail bullets for the best accuracy.

I have done a lot of load testing with several M96's. I shoot only 130 Norma, 140 A-Max, 139 Scenar, and 142 SRA Mk bullets. I used only AA2700 for years, and it was excellent up to 1000 yards.

But for more velocity at 1000 yards, I have switched to RL22. AA2700 is a fine double based ball powder that meters consistently from any powder measure. RL22 is an extruded powder, and to load it I have a RCBS ChargeMaster1500 scale and powder dispenser.

Loads recorded in my file for bullets in your weight range are:
Lapua brass, WLR primer, AA 2700,
- 120 SRA HPBT, 42.1 grains;
- 120 Remington PSP, 42.0 grains, and
- 130 Norma 42.3 grains, Chrono'd FPS 2,737.


texaggie77
Posted - 01/12/2007 : 09:14:06 AM
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Thanks Hag! I really appreciate you getting me this load information. I will not be shooting my M96 more than 300 yards. But I will definitely use it for both target shooting and hunting.
So AA2700 huh? I should look into that powder. I've also heard that H450 is good for the 6.5x55.


Hag
Posted - 01/12/2007 : 12:40:26 PM
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You will be very pleased with AA 2700. I have never had a split neck, blown primer or a case failure of any kind with the 6.5 x55. (Knock on wood) I neck size and trimming is not necessary until numerous reloads. Actually the brass never wears out. The brass just becomes to worn and ugly to load.
All of the chambers in my M96's measure 2.174", so new Lapua brass, which measures 2.1585", does not require trimming. I do trim after once firing,for exactness to shoot long range. Lapua brass has primer pockets that do not require sizing or inside burr removal,so these are two brass preparation jobs Lapua saves us from having to do.
I load rounds just off the lands, and shoot single shot, since the rounds will not fit in the magazine. If you measure your rounds off the ogive and square off the meplat you will have better accuracy. Sinclair sells a six caliber comparator that is very easy to use to measure your bullets' ogives.


Big Brother John
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 5:53:50 PM
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I usually use 42 grains of IMR4350. It woeks goof in the long barrel. Using the Lapua brass will help your case splitting problem. The winchester (same as S&B) is to small at the base. They dont manufacture it to the correct specs.
 

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DaSOB
Posted - 03/17/2007 : 08:53:17 AM
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I have several boxes of PMC 6.5 x 55, but from the look of the primers it's kinda hot. I'm going to break down the remaining cartridges and reload them to military specs. Anybody got a good recipe for 140 grain pills?



jim in Oregon
Posted - 03/17/2007 : 09:04:36 AM
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Rel 22, start at 44.5 and perhaps work toward 46 or so grains.
Standard trim and OAL..
I use Lapua brass and WLR primers with Sierra 140 BTSP bullets at 46.5 grains.Excellent load in my Swedes for accuracy at about 2570FPS MV in the 29" barrell.
I don't know about PMC brass or primers or the bullets used so work up..Jim



jim in Oregon
Posted - 03/17/2007 : 09:10:35 AM
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I just realized you're loading for your Swede M38 w/24+" barrel.
Rel 22 works well, but Rel 15 is actually a bit better in the shorter barrel.
Start at about 36 grains and work up to 37.5 or so until it comes together... Rel 15 is a bit faster burning thasn the Rel 22 and seems to do better in the shorter barreled M38.



GjMan
Posted - 03/18/2007 : 12:12:05 AM
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IMR 4831 also works well in the shorter-barrelled M38. Surprisingly well, I think, when you consider how long this powder has been around. It's a little cheaper than some of the other stuff, too.

I like 43.0 grains with 140-grain bullets for a moderate, very accurate load. Don't have chrono data handy, but IIRC I was getting close to 2600 fps from my M38. The same load produces 2700 fps in my M96s. For comparison, 46.5 grains of RL 22, which is a very accurate load in the M96, produces about 2790 fps in the 29-inch barrel.

This is faster than what Jim is getting in his rifle; maybe my rifle is different, or maybe my chrono is off? Also I may be measuring closer to the muzzle--my range has a slope in front of the firing line, so the chrono has to be uncomfortably close to the muzzle to keep the sky screens over the line of sight.

Tried RL 22 early on in the M38, but found 4831 to give slightly better accuracy at lower cost. Never tried RL 15, but it should do well. OTOH RL 19 has been a little disappointing in my Swedes, although I haven't worked with it that much.



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Posted - 03/25/2007 : 10:54:25 AM
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I've had very good results with Varget at 34.5 gr for the 140 gr "pills". This works consistently in all my swedes, 38, 96, CG 63's and CG 80
Just another option.
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Sierra 140 grain MatchKing

Here is another long import of a more recent thread:

circle11
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 4:23:37 PM
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Is this a good all around bullet for an M96 FSR rifle? It has a std. military barrel. I am using Lapua Brass and Hodgdon H4831 or H4350 as it is what I have on hand right now.



Stan
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 4:28:29 PM
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Works great in every m96 I've tried it in.



Dutchman
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 5:05:59 PM
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Its a match bullet, not an "all around" bullet. Its not for hunting, its for shooting at paper. This one little detail would preclude any definition of "all around" bullet.



HK
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 7:38:04 PM
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Contrary to other calibers, I was not too happy with the 140 grs Matchking out of my m/96 (using Varget, RL 22 and N 165 w/ Lapua cases and CCI BR2 primers). Far more accurate were

- Hornady A-Max 140 grs in front of RL 22
- Lapua MEGA 155 grs in front of N 165 and
- Lapua FMJ 144 grs in front of N 140 (my standard load)

Cloverleaves with both VV powders. Every rifle seems to have its own predilections, mind.



USMCsean
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 9:27:50 PM
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The A-Max is supposed to be a great bullet. I need the time to find out someday.



Dutchman
Posted - 12/07/2006 : 9:43:28 PM
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I am very fond of the Hornady 160gr round nose soft point. Its the closest we can get to the original m/94 bullet. It has exceptional downrange ballistics and has superior penetration on game. I shoot other bullet weights and shapes but the 160gr RN is my favorite jacketed bullet in the 6.5x55.



Hag
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 12:28:45 AM
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140 A-Max, 142 SRA MK, 139 Lapua Scenar, 130 Norma, all very accurate long range with RL22, Lapua Brass, WLR primer. Why shoot the 140 SRA when you can shoot the 142 SRA MK? This is the bullet a lot of long distance shooters use.



Ed Novak
Posted - 12/08/2006 : 11:26:12 PM
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Originally posted by Dutchman
I am very fond of the Hornady 160gr round nose soft point. Its the closest we can get to the original m/94 bullet. It has exceptional downrange ballistics and has superior penetration on game. I shoot other bullet weights and shapes but the 160gr RN is my favorite jacketed bullet in the 6.5x55.
I have a fondness for those long RN bullets myself. Always thought the 7X57 cartridge with its 170/175gr RN looked rathere elegant - just wish I had a good, older 7X57 again to use them in. There is something special about the long RN bullets which speaks of a time when bullet placement was more important than its speed. ed



circle11
Posted - 12/13/2006 : 10:16:34 PM
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Thanks for the input folks,
I went for the 160 Grain Hornaday's which is not something I would have considered until my post... Rounded Tip sure gives it a classic look...I'll let y'all know how they do.



bones92
Posted - 12/14/2006 : 11:08:01 AM
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Kind of a funny story... right after I decided to finally break out my Lee Anniversary Kit with 6.5x55 dies (I had got it for a present and didn't mess with it for a couple years), I ordered some 140 grain Sierra bullets... Matchkings... thinking they were hunting bullets. Got the order, looked at them and thought... "hmmm... doesn't seem right". Eventually figured out out they were for MATCH shooting, not GAME shooting. I still have the box of 100, as I just went to the local show and bought some Hornady Interbond (which do VERY well on whitetail, BTW).

I need to take time to load the Matchkings someday, now that I have a few Swedes to run them through. Can't wait to get my reloading bench set up again after having moved 2 years ago.



guide
Posted - 01/28/2007 : 12:29:27 AM
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To address the original question, I've found the 140gr Sierra match king to be about as good as it gets for target shooting. Hunting would depend on what game is involved here in Canada with the moose I use the 160gr sierra game king I find it feeds through the mauser action smoother than the hornady round nose.



Mike442
Posted - 01/28/2007 : 02:18:04 AM
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Ditto on guide's response. I have found the Sierra 140gr MatchKing to be an excellent choice for match shooting in my M96. But it really depends on the specific rifle your reloading for. Some rifles shoot better with certain bullets and powders than other rifles do and vice versa. One of the advantages of reloading is that you can experiment around with different components until you find the combination that shoots the most accurate in the specific rifle your using it in. Each rifle is unique in barrel harmonics, etc.



Tom in Pittsburgh
Posted - 01/28/2007 : 9:46:31 PM
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Several years ago I corresponded with Sierra's technical folks -- I was curious why they offered 6.5m/m MatchKings in both 140 and 142-grain weights. They explained that the 142-grainers were designed for rifles with faster rifling twists -- like the Swedish Mausers with their 1:200m/m (1:7.9") twist. As A result, I focused on the 142-grain MatchKings when working up loads for my 1900 Oberndorf.

Best one to date has been 44.0 grains of H4350 -- a STOUT, max load, but I was able to put ten bullets into 1-11/16" off the bench at 100 yards with the rifle's issue sights.

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kikir
Posted - 01/30/2007 : 11:48:55 PM
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I shoot my 1917 M96 in my clubs Military Match. We shoot ten rounds each at two targets for a total score of 200. I score in the high 190’s every match using 140gr HPBT Sierra Matchkings, N550 and Lapua brass. I have tried every powder and load I have read about. But, this one works for me.



rbbeck321
Posted - 01/31/2007 : 07:35:11 AM
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Kikir - What charge of H550 have you found to be the most accurate in your rifle?



Wartuna
Posted - 01/31/2007 : 09:17:03 AM
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There is very little mystery to reloading for Swedish Mausers. They are not fussy. Of couirse, opinions may vary widely. I have found that almost any modern powder in a medium-slow burn rate will do nicely -- IMR 4350 or the equivalent comes to mind. A typical 140g HPBT bullet will perform well in a target capacity -- Sierra or Hornady make very good/consistent bullets. For extended barrel life, load to a velocity of 2500 to 2650 fps -- more than this has a downside. Neck sizing cases and appropriate case management will give good results. By case management, I mean keeping careful records of the number of loadings and keep your cases in "lots" of 50 or more. Each rifle has its own unique chamber size and bullet leade. I full length size and trim cases after 10 reloadings. The hotter the load, the sooner one has to do this. Of primary importance is the bullet seating length and load development should begin with the establishment of this with the use of a comparator -- Sinclair International makes a good/inexpensive one. Don't work with too many variables at once. If you can keep 20 shots within a 2" group at 100 yds with iron sights -- military or diopter, you are doing well.



longrangesniper
Posted - 02/01/2007 : 2:39:32 PM
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Lapua brass and their 139 Scenar bullet with 46 grains of Reloder 22 is a great load and will shoot back to 1000 yards. It has won many competitions for me - no wonder when its BC is .615.



kikir
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 09:51:43 AM
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I use 37.4grs of Vihtavuori N550. With the Ogive OAL = 2.550" and cartridge OAL = 3.060". I read that the Sierra 142gr HPBT MatchKings were designed for the faster twist barrels of the Swede rifles. I just got some and will be testing some loads this week using N550. I will post the results. I have also been trying the 170gr Cast bullet using 5744 at 100yds. But so far haven't been able to get them to group.



Carcano
Posted - 07/16/2007 : 1:25:29 PM
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Originally posted by Dutchman

I am very fond of the Hornady 160gr round nose soft point. Its the closest we can get to the original m/94 bullet. It has exceptional downrange ballistics and has superior penetration on game. I shoot other bullet weights and shapes but the 160gr RN is my favorite jacketed bullet in the 6.5x55.
Just after I had uttered my (only moderately educated) guess on the performance of a 156 gr or 160 gr RNSP bullet in my m/94-14 carbine, I now see your comment and feel a bit, uhhhh, encouraged :).

A sharing of loading recipes would be appreciated, including a hint for "Mexican match" (using the m/41 milsurp, pulling the bullet and reducing the powder charger - but to what weight?).



Wildalaska
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 02:08:03 AM
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I use 139 scenars, Lapua cases, fed 210M (sob, I cant get em) 44 grains of RL22 OAL 3.150 for 2575 fps out of the M41B, with regular 5 shot groups of less than 1/2 inch, as long as I am not shooting like some tyro. Ive gotten as many as 16 loadings on a case which I do in lots of 50. I use MKs in my M38, its cheaper :)

Dutchman I for one would love a 156-160 grain load especially since I have a custom commercial Husqvarna for caribou this year



MJ
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 6:48:09 PM
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140g Sierra MatchKing and 45g of RL-22.
You know who gave me that load. Thanks.



Hag
Posted - 07/22/2007 : 10:02:18 PM
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I believe the Sierra 142 MK is a better choice. It has a higher ballistic coefficient and is the match bullet choice of many. I enjoy shooting 600 and 1000 yards with my Swede rifles. The bullets I shoot are the 142MK, 140 A-Max, 139 Scenar, and 130 Norma. The 140 A-Max is slightly more accurate with several of my rifles. The meplat on the A-Max does not require trimming like the other bullets. I use RL 22 powder ,Lapua brass, and Winchester Large Rifle primers.



Wildalaska
Posted - 07/24/2007 : 01:04:47 AM
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Hag I think the Lapua Sceaner 139 has a higher BC than the 142 SMK



Hag
Posted - 07/24/2007 : 1:09:48 PM
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Wildalaska, My opinion was that the 142MK has a higher BC than the 140MK, and is a better choice. I don't know the BC for the four different bullets. I wouldn't be surprised if the 130 Norma has the highest BC. Hopefully someone will post the actual BC's for us.



Wildalaska
Posted - 07/24/2007 : 11:35:46 PM
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Here is a link
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/6mmbr/vpost?id=1205199&trail=8
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