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Vulch
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Posted - 02/08/2004 : 6:47:15 PM Show Profile Send Vulch a Private Message Reply with Quote
Just a quick poll to see how many SMLE Mk V are floating around in collections now. (NO, I am NOT talking about the common No5 Jungle Carbine)

Please also list serial number (you can X out the last couple of digits), and year.

Please also make a mention of if it is complete as a Mk V or not.

Thanks.

Tim
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Posted - 02/09/2004 : 12:52:36 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Compleete 1922 less mk111 safety, overstamped 4digit ser No. with 225, poss original was 2625
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Tim
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Posted - 02/09/2004 : 12:56:22 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
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Nyles
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Posted - 02/09/2004 : 1:51:59 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I know of one in the Royal Winnipeg Rifles regimental museum here in Winnipeg (duh), but I haven't been able to examine it closely.
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Rowdy
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Posted - 02/10/2004 : 01:35:33 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Had 1924 serial A2052 complete but replaced bolt.
Traded for 1922 serial 5869 all original.
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dhobart
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Posted - 02/11/2004 : 8:49:33 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1924 s/n A785, all complete.

1922 s/n 930, all complete.
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EDINOH
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Posted - 02/11/2004 : 11:08:50 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Vulch:
I have a 1924 complete, even correct safety. Serial number in the A4000 range. Vulch, did you get my email about the Lithgow rear sight? EDINOH
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husk
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Posted - 02/13/2004 : 12:51:34 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Both dated 1924 with serial #'s A2X and A40XX.
Good idea for a survey.

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Lance
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Posted - 02/13/2004 : 10:33:18 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1924 complete s/n 8843
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tompats
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Posted - 02/16/2004 : 06:38:50 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922 MKV sporterized ser# 2217 needs sight front wood and third band paid 70$ for it, tom
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Spike_DD
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Posted - 03/04/2004 : 9:58:12 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Mine is a 1924, Serial # A 851 100% complete and matching.

David
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Tim
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Posted - 03/05/2004 : 3:46:37 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Any Chance of pictures?
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Claven2
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Posted - 03/13/2004 : 09:51:17 AM Show Profile Visit Claven2's Homepage Reply with Quote
Here's one....



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This rifle is from the Geoff/Ottawa collection, so you'll have to ask him re details.
"Oppressors can tyranize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace" - James Madison

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bbe
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 09:49:16 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have a matching example, complete mk V, 1924 A 3610. I bought it off the trader a year or two ago...regards, bbe
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ansleyj
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Posted - 03/29/2004 : 10:37:04 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Can report on 2: A 1922, complete and all original, serial #3417; The remains of a 1922 serial #426, consisting of receiver and safety. Sight removed and traded off to some vulture in OZ, bolt mismatched and off of some unfortunate Mk. III.
jona
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machinego
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Posted - 03/29/2004 : 5:36:10 PM Show Profile Visit machinego's Homepage Reply with Quote
Here is my Mark V, I got it at a gun shop as a "Mark III," thier loss, my gain. Nice little rifle with no import marks, 1922 serial A 50xx

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machinego
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Posted - 03/29/2004 : 5:46:56 PM Show Profile Visit machinego's Homepage Reply with Quote
oops, forgot to mention, all matching and all there!

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SwingingSniper
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Posted - 03/29/2004 : 7:43:06 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Here's my Mk5. Its complete and all matching. I thought it was a 1922, but its in the serial number range as several others made in 1924. Guess I will have to look again when I have time.




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By the way, I was with Machinego when he purchased his. I thought I got a fantastic deal, but he really stole his! They thought it was some cheap MkIII refurb. That's ok, Machinego will remember my sweet deal that day!



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45Auto
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Posted - 04/10/2004 : 10:28:06 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1924 MK V No. A39xx, 100% correct. I know of another in town which I think is 1922 the safety on that one is a from a MK III, otherwise it's uncut and original.
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45Auto
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Posted - 04/10/2004 : 10:40:31 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote


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newcastle
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Posted - 04/16/2004 : 11:01:26 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Just bought one 1922 complete and matching two days ago. Waiting ten days before I can get it so I don't know the number exactly - it is four digits though I think.
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newcastle
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Posted - 04/20/2004 : 12:31:08 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Turns out the SMLE MkV I've acquired is Serial Number 11X. Anyone got an earlier one?
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SteveM
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Posted - 04/20/2004 : 2:03:59 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have number 9x

SteveM

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newcastle
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Posted - 04/20/2004 : 4:36:01 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Nice.
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Cone
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Posted - 05/08/2004 : 12:23:56 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Here's yet another Mk.V survivor, plucked from a rack of run-of-the-mill, $99.00 number ones at an unsuspecting gun shop.

It's missing the original bolt and safety, but is otherwise unmolested.



1922 - No.1 MkV - s/n 501X
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tunashark
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Posted - 05/22/2004 : 12:41:35 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Serial # 71, 1922, matched bolt and nosecap, correct safety.

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tompats
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Posted - 06/11/2004 : 12:48:21 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922 MK V #2217 MK V SAFETY BUT MISSING BANDS SIGHT AND ORIGIONAL STOCK. TOM
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Finn Collector
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Posted - 06/17/2004 : 10:11:52 PM Show Profile Visit Finn Collector's Homepage Reply with Quote
Hey Vulch, remember this one?. SN A182X 1924.


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Vulch
Moderator English Gun Pub

Australia
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Posted - 06/19/2004 : 09:04:36 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
SURE DO!!!!!!

It has to be the rarest of any SMLE V.

then again, I guess it is even the rarest No5 as well! Since it is a hybrid of sorts....

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buckeye fan
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Posted - 08/28/2004 : 09:39:13 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Sir I have a 1922 dated Mk.V ser.no.4856 all matching in unalerted condintion with the Mk.V safety.Thanks Jeff
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redcatarmada
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 05:41:08 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Folks
just a quickie;
sorry I can't add any knowledge to surviving Mk5s but as a matter of interest I borrowed a book from the local library called "Requiem" "By The Photographers Who Died In Vietnam And Indochina". It published the last roll of film taken by photgraphers of all nationalites with the known facts of their deaths. On p107 there is a photo captioned 'Viet Cong guerillas fire at passing aircraft. Their weapons date back to the French Indochina War.' It is attributed to Nguyen Luong Nam, 1966.
There are 3 VC standing in a trench shooting up. The first is using an SMLE Mk5 with its distinctive extra band at the rear of the nose cap. How you would you be! A very clear, detailed photo. Outside of Skennerton's book I have never seen an action photo. The other rifles are a Moisin Nagant carbine (I think) and an M1A1 .30 cal. carbine with the folding stock visible.
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David G.
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Posted - 09/06/2004 : 5:05:37 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1924, serial # 39XX. all correct and complete except bolt is mismatched but in the correct range, #81XX
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smittylite
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Posted - 10/04/2004 : 8:24:26 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922, serial #22XX, all correct but no safety or regimental disc.
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tom finch
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Posted - 10/24/2004 : 11:41:36 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Mine is 1924 # A4037.All original except
stock refinished and disc hole in butt is
plugged. Somewhere I also have a slightly
butchered rear sight.
tom finch
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limpetmine
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Posted - 11/17/2004 : 11:32:16 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922 Mk V
Gunshop find. Sporterized wood, all metal remaining intact except nosecap and upperbands.
No. 4973 Matching bolt, barrel and reciever. Proper Mk V safety.
Blueing about 95%. Frosty bore, but not to bad. Should shoot OK.
Restoration parts on the way, will post before and after pictures in a week or so.
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richardwv
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USA
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Posted - 11/29/2004 : 1:37:40 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1924 dated, Ser# A1462. All matching, correct safety, etc. Import marked from a company I can't quite make out in Amhurst, NJ.

Rich in WV…..savoring life one cartridge at a time!
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Buffler
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Posted - 11/29/2004 : 3:41:38 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Just dug mine out..1924,looks like walnut stock. Has been
sported/ not me. #9456,org.mag., safety. Stock has FA over
Broad Arrow stamped,brass butplate,Is there any front wood
and metal to restore this to org? NOT trying to fake, my
collection/shooters only!! Thanks for any HELP!!!
BE SAFE!! Buffler ps,brass disc is gone..HW in cutout!??
Thanks, Baffled me too!!
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saskone
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Posted - 12/13/2004 : 6:14:03 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I owned one years ago. it was dated 1922 with serial number 3494. Was complete,with a missmatched bolt. Remember it had an "S" marked stock (short)
jrr
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gospodin
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USA
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Posted - 01/12/2005 : 12:57:31 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Mine is s/n A 5825, dated 1924. It is all correct and complete except that the brass buttstock disc is missing.Not import marked but has British "tons " proofing.
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Clint Shields
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Posted - 01/17/2005 : 8:15:38 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
One of my favourite rifles all use shooting rifles is an SMLE that's marked as such:

ENFIELD 1915
Sht. IV
IV*

Is this the same as a V?

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03man
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2005 : 4:05:42 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have a MK V, complete, serial 8,24x. It's in the back of the safe. Next time I see it I'll get more info.
03man
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Joe Turner
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Posted - 01/23/2005 : 3:52:05 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Have interesting Mk.V Reworked stock msrked DP complete and in nice shape. the handguard is made of two pieces of wood nicely glued together and matches the fore end. Dated 1924 and has england stamped on top flat of knox form, also nitro proof marks. Bolt is numbered 55 and receiver and barrel are numbered 66. Numerous inspection marks. Most original blue finish remain, smooth action and nice bore. Shoots well. has original rear sight which has not been messed with. Got this gun in a local garage sale years ago. I collect Enfields didn't know anything about this model until I bought this one and did a little research. Joe Turner
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theleftboot
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Posted - 01/24/2005 : 01:16:55 AM Show Profile Visit theleftboot's Homepage Reply with Quote

quote:Originally posted by Clint Shields

One of my favourite rifles all use shooting rifles is an SMLE that's marked as such:

ENFIELD 1915
Sht. IV
IV*

Is this the same as a V?




Nope. Not a MK V.

Is your rifle a .22 or in .303? The markings indicate a III/III* that was converted to IV* and that is a .22 trainer.

As for MK V's? Mine is sportered but has original rear sight and MK V safety and matching bolt. Serial for the 1924 gal is "A 240X"
"You don't throw away a whole life just cause he's banged up a little." - Chris Cooper as "Tom Smith" in the Movie "Seabiscuit"
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finestkind
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Posted - 02/08/2005 : 10:11:23 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Tim, I don't know if anyone mentioned it but the overstamp on yours is the pressure test marking for export.

Chuck
It is refreshing to see those who say it cannot be done being passed by those doing it.
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finestkind
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Posted - 02/08/2005 : 10:16:54 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
First one is A3xx missing correct safety and upper band. Second is 55xx and all correct.

Chuck
It is refreshing to see those who say it cannot be done being passed by those doing it.
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bykerhd
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Posted - 02/08/2005 : 10:54:52 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
There was what I believe was a hacked up Mk V at a local gun show this past weekend. The rear sight caught my eye right off the bat. Forend was hacked short but the metal looked untouched, It had the nmagazine cut-off. Asking price was $130. I was hot to trot on another rifle and was unsure whether the correct replacement parts could ever be found so I didn't even make an offer on it. Been kicking myself a bit ever since.
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340mech
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 07:32:45 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
#2518 is from 1922. Complete, correct, matching and happily living in the woods of upstate New York.
Steve
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Tim
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 1:39:26 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote

quote:Originally posted by finestkind

Tim, I don't know if anyone mentioned it but the overstamp on yours is the pressure test marking for export.

Chuck

Having given it a closer look it is an overstamp of 225 over 2265 the original number. This is born out by the furniture having the 2265 stamp as well. There are proof marks and other wierd stamps that I have yet to wade through. So far the nosecap is a replacement from when? the top hand guards are replacements but I am having those remade. The reaer sight aperture is a replacement on the original leaf and the safety catch is a MK111. At least it shoots well. I will have another look and attempt to decipher the proof stampings.
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Iron Maiden
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Posted - 03/16/2005 : 12:14:53 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Just got a Mk V today, so I have to get in on the action here. The pics speak for themselves. And yes it is all matching with original sling.


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gabweaver
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Posted - 03/24/2005 : 12:18:08 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have a 1924 sn# A510X all there, havent shot it. all sn# match.
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beachbumbob
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Posted - 05/04/2005 : 1:59:15 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I'm pleased to report that MK V Serial number 6522 dated 1923 and in original configuration is now residing with me. Been looking for a decent one for about 25 years or so.

As I said its all original except that it has an import mark identifying it as a No 1 Mk III. Oh well thats a small price to pay for a nice rifle.

I'm not sure about the safety so I've included a picture of the one installed on it now. It is marked with a V and has four or possibly five lines stamped on the forward outside of it.

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Tim
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 2:56:40 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
BBB that is the correct safety you jammy bugger!
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Vulch
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Australia
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Posted - 05/06/2005 : 05:31:30 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Speaking of which I am proud to have been a part in the restoration of these fine SMLE V's.

If anyone is interested in obtaining one, email me and I can supply contact details.



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SteveM
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Posted - 06/12/2005 : 12:22:21 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Waiting on my front band to arrive. Before and after pics on SN# 97 Mk V

SteveM

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beachbumbob
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Posted - 06/16/2005 : 10:03:54 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Steve,

Nice job! Where did you luck upon the band? My gun shop guy is looking for one for his rifle and I'd like to surprise him if possible.

He also needs the big nosecap screw.

Thanks,

Bob
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SteveM
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Posted - 06/16/2005 : 10:32:47 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Bob,
I got the stock off ebay and asked the seller if he had any metal parts and luckily he had the band which he was going to throw away!!

SteveM
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OTD
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Posted - 07/31/2005 : 06:48:00 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
8024 is here in Switzerland.

regards, daniel
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Coogan
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Posted - 08/04/2005 : 7:48:22 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922 serial 4910. Matching on bolt, mag barrel and action. Barrel dates to 1923.

sporterized. Gonna restore!
Semper Fi,
Mike
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1997-2004

Looking for:
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Slovak marked vz.24
Persian 98/29 Mauser
Remington Mosin rifles or Mosin rifles built on Remington receivers
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Tim
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Posted - 08/08/2005 : 3:25:25 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Coogan, e mail sent!
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Bruce in Utah
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Posted - 08/16/2005 : 5:11:07 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Mine was eaten alive by Bubba, who planed off the charger bridge and rear sight and then threw away the stock.

Serial# A4608 1925

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Bruce in Utah
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Posted - 08/16/2005 : 5:13:38 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I forgot to mention...notice the artistic rear sight Bubba attached! One large screw so the sight bobs back and forth. A real artisan of the metals, he was.
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Coogan
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Posted - 08/17/2005 : 7:47:25 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
OK, you win!

(Don't you wish, just once, that you could find Bubba and kick his ass?)
Semper Fi,
Mike
Sergeant, USMCR 2111
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Looking for:
Australian Enfields (produced or marked)
Slovak marked vz.24
Persian 98/29 Mauser
Remington Mosin rifles or Mosin rifles built on Remington receivers
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Enfield52
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Posted - 09/11/2005 : 6:33:29 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922 serial 9XX..All matching with British export marks on barrel knox.No US import marks..
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Thunderbox
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Posted - 10/23/2005 : 4:54:30 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1924 A2465
1924 A5300

Both in good condition, all matching and complete - except both missing front band......!
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Skookum
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Posted - 11/11/2005 : 9:44:54 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Obtained a SMLE V w/matching bolt, rcv'r, nose-cap today in trade for a 1915 Webley revolver. Ser # is 452X. Has V marked safety lever. NICE wood, stock disk w/L. Stock has numerous small proof/acceptence marks on bottom wrist just behind trigger guard. However, the mag is not #'d to the rifle and is marked "4" (perhaps for a Mk IV?). Mirror bore. Rifle appears to be original and unaltered and I'd rate it to be in excellent condition.

Cheers,

JP
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Tim
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/12/2005 : 2:10:14 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
British mags as a rough guide were not marked to rifles!
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TGA
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Posted - 12/08/2005 : 1:25:35 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Got a nice Mk V, 1922, all matching but has a Mk III safety. Serial
6267
TGA
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Dino in Reno
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Posted - 01/16/2006 : 01:42:55 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922, #552X, V marked safety, forend wood (top & bottom are re-done SMLE, I don't know how to tell if the nosecap and forward band are right (but I think they are off a D. P. rifle). Matching bolt, but missing the lock screw for the cocking piece. Barrel is bright, but worn. Some areas of old scattered light pitting on the reciever.
I am also looking for proper wood (or a reproduction) not to "fake, but to make it look right. Is there an agreement on a mark for "restored" ?
I have wanted one for years and knew it was not "right" when I bought it. It was the only one I had seen in five or so years, and had the money. Fun to shoot and have people say that they have a No 1 mk III too :)
Hey, what's the price range on these?

Dino in Reno
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usrifle
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Posted - 01/19/2006 : 10:16:52 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922 dated, serial # 54! I think it's all there, but i don't know much about them.
John
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willie91fx
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USA
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Posted - 02/04/2006 : 10:13:41 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Here is my 1923, serial # 6696. sorry can't figure out how to post a pic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/willie91/wriststampings.jpg

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Chargerclip
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Australia
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Posted - 02/24/2006 : 06:56:45 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
OK you guys, I'm hooked. Anyone in Australia want to part with their V?

And in case my wife reads this, NO 14 isn't enough Enfields.

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kiwidon
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Posted - 03/22/2006 : 5:20:12 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
from new zealand - year 1923, vg condition, number 8128.
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teddydog
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Posted - 05/11/2006 : 3:18:01 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I used to own one that was complete except for, I think, the magazine (IIRC). It was number 71 or 72, I think. Sold/traded it to another LE collector when my interests changed. I got it as one of 4 rifles in a lot at auction for a TOTAL of less than $400 (including fees and shipping).

Rob
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OzzyDavid
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Australia
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Posted - 06/24/2006 : 04:02:33 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922 No.1726, Matching No's. NSW Australia
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tionesta
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Posted - 07/17/2006 : 9:41:35 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Have a Mark V in my collection. Have to check the serial number and date.
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KBCraig
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Posted - 07/28/2006 : 10:16:33 AM Show Profile Visit KBCraig's Homepage Reply with Quote
I just rescued one in Texarkana, Texas. Dated 1924, serial A279, no import mark (just the old style "ENGLAND"). All matching and seemingly correct (but I'm not certain about the cocking piece).

Oh, and did I mention what I paid? Just $199.95!!! Happy-happy-joy-joy. I'm doing the gloat dance!

Here are some pictures, before I had done so much as wipe the dust off. Got a few little red spots that will clean right up with steel wool & oil. The wood needs a good drink of BLO. Bore is excellent.

http://www.etasigma.org/ShtLE-V/ShtLE-V.html

Kevin
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Peter in CA
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Posted - 08/11/2006 : 9:11:23 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
All,
My first SMLE V arrived today. Sporterized (nice plastic stock) but thankfully the barrel is original length. Matching bolt / receiver / barrel. Barrel date 1924. Serial number 8729. No letters before number. Very faint 1924 on butt socket. Rear sight seems complete. Unfortunately there is mild corrosion/pitting on barrel and action. It does have the correct cut-off, but a "III" safety lever.

Now begins the long, slow, expensive process of making it military again.
Wish me luck.

Peter in CA
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Peter in CA
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Posted - 08/16/2006 : 10:04:22 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Greetings,
Why get only 1 Mk V when you can get more. My second one is 1922 sn 5398. Barrel is 1924 but still sn 5398. Sporterized and unfortunately the rear sight slide is wrecked. The rest of the rifle is in very good condition. No rust or pitting.

Anyone have a rear sight slide that they might be willing to part with?

Peter in CA
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YoungSurplusNut
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Posted - 10/04/2006 : 7:03:27 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
One more to the list,

My 1922 Mk.V, serial #657X. All numbers matching, original finish, but the stock has been cut down. On the bright side though, the original barrel has a sharp, shiney bore.

I'm gonna try to locate the parts and restore it.
Another victim of Surplusitis
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Sporky
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Posted - 10/05/2006 : 1:11:26 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Whoa, something is amiss here. BeachBumBob reports on the first page that he has rifle #6522 with a 1923 date. Either he put the date down wrong (and since the pic has been nuked there's no way to be sure), or we have a mystery. How would your new rifle, YoungSurplusNut, be ~50 after Bob's, yet be dated a year earlier? Sloppy marking? Or were they numbered, tossed in a bin, and then removed and dated/cyphered later?

If nothing else, we can be fairly sure (or can we?) that your rifle is one of the last of the 1922s.

This is going to drive me crazy.
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Peter in CA
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Posted - 10/05/2006 : 3:26:14 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Sporky,
Why does my 1922 Mk V have a 1924 dated barrel on it, with totally matching serial number fonts? They could not have worn out a barrel in 2 years.
I subscribe to the "throw them in a bin" theory. Only I think that they might have been produced, dated, cyphered and then put in the bin.

Peter in CA
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Sporky
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Posted - 10/05/2006 : 6:05:55 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Peter, I haven't a clue, of course. The speculation I've seen elsewhere was that the action bodies were produced and numbered, stored, and then assembled; this speculation was based on late barrel dates on early action numbers. I have no idea whether this is true; from my own experience they were not consistent about dating the barrels.

It's stuff like this that makes me wish someone (Mr. Skennerton) would do an in-depth study on these fascinating rifles.
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Tim
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 1:51:10 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
My rifle was reserialled at some point, for some obscure reason. It is registered as a 3 digit serial 1922 manufacture but the barrel has a 4 digit number and the socket is worn.
as to the theories about part bins, the rifles were made up apparently as an order of 20,000 for troop trials. whether this went ahead after the reputed poor performance at Bisley could be checked through the small arms sub commitee minutes. As no more were made post 1924 I surmise that most were sold out of service or as the Lee Enfield story shows used for further trials such as shown in the book. Who knows what happened.
Edited by - Tim on 10/06/2006 1:54:27 PM
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Peter in CA
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Posted - 10/06/2006 : 4:03:56 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
All,
One of mine has a 39 stamped on the left side of the buttsocket, next to the safety. It also has several BSA parts on it.
I know the BSA parts probably mean nothing, but was the rifle FTR'd in 1939? If it was, was it being prepared for war service?
Very interesting....

Peter in CA
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Iron Duke
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Posted - 10/09/2006 : 5:12:17 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have two, both complete and matching, both 1924, A1186 and A644
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BradB
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Posted - 10/10/2006 : 10:01:50 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1922, SN 102x, all matching with Mark V safety. Stock disk says "2", also a "-2" stamped on left rear of receiver (next to cocking piece). Nice bore and metal, wood appears "cleaned" but not sanded. British export marks on knox form, no US import markings. Found it online. These are the sellers photos: accurate. Have not taken it down yet.

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Victor53
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Posted - 10/19/2006 : 7:50:32 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
If you are referring to what looks like a N0# 1 Mk 3 but has the large rear mounted sight. I had two of them, they are available here in the states.
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BradB
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Posted - 10/20/2006 : 5:33:55 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
They are referring to the rifle with several photo posts in this string including directly above.
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harrymac
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Posted - 12/17/2006 : 3:22:00 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Rifle no A803 dated 1924. this is one of the re-built rifles by Jim Franklin trading as EFD here in UK. They aren't cheap but you do get what amounts to a brand new rifle.
The difference between an Englishman and an American: One thinks that 100 miles is a long way, the other that 100 years is a long time.
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Tim
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Posted - 12/17/2006 : 5:02:42 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote

quote:Originally posted by harrymac

Rifle no A803 dated 1924. this is one of the re-built rifles by Jim Franklin trading as EFD here in UK. They aren't cheap but you do get what amounts to a brand new rifle.


Pricey arent they!
Still not made any more!
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bsa1912
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Posted - 12/18/2006 : 2:30:31 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hello from good old England.

I have a MKV dated 1924, Serial no.A4241, totally complete.
I picked it up from a gun dealer in a terrible state. Woodwork very bruised and paint or little finish on some of the metal parts,cut off firing pin ( I reckon a wall hanger in some officers mess).
Steamed the woodwork and refinished it ,came up well.
Cleaned up and reblacked metal parts, sourced off ebay correct cut off and also correct piling swivel and got a gunsmith to check her out.
Looks good now and the barrels OK. She shoots better than me!
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Tim
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 06:47:16 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote

quote:Originally posted by bsa1912

Hello from good old England.

I have a MKV dated 1924, Serial no.A4241, totally complete.
I picked it up from a gun dealer in a terrible state. Woodwork very bruised and paint or little finish on some of the metal parts,cut off firing pin ( I reckon a wall hanger in some officers mess).
Steamed the woodwork and refinished it ,came up well.
Cleaned up and reblacked metal parts, sourced off ebay correct cut off and also correct piling swivel and got a gunsmith to check her out.
Looks good now and the barrels OK. She shoots better than me!


Good, glad to hear it, hope to see you on the LERA?HBSA stand at the next NRA open day!
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cubman
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Posted - 01/03/2007 : 1:28:23 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
My No V is A13xx. It is 1924 and has been sported, metal all matched numbers except mag. It is a beautiful job of sporting so I hesitate to restore the furniture. It also has the V safety
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Tim
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Posted - 01/03/2007 : 2:58:51 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote

quote:Originally posted by cubman

My No V is A13xx. It is 1924 and has been sported, metal all matched numbers except mag. It is a beautiful job of sporting so I hesitate to restore the furniture. It also has the V safety


we need to see pictures of that! It would be nice to see tastefully sportered versions rather than hack sawed jobs. Has anyone kept a tally of how many are out there yet?
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303boltgunman
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Posted - 01/31/2007 : 6:19:09 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have a 1924 All Matching Small Butt (They all seem to have a small butt fitted) Serial A3881
A good score is not made with a large amount of perfect shots, but by the absence of poor ones.
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303boltgunman
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Posted - 01/31/2007 : 6:23:23 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
There is a De-Activated one here http://www.milweb.net/webverts/30786/ asking £450 looks beat hence de-activated 1924 by the looks of it. SHAME! No Rifle deserves to go like that!
A good score is not made with a large amount of perfect shots, but by the absence of poor ones.
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Sporky
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Posted - 02/01/2007 : 1:09:01 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote

quote:Originally posted by 303boltgunman
(They all seem to have a small butt fitted)


Does seem that way, doesn't it?
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5th Batt WWCT
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Posted - 02/02/2007 : 01:14:03 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
1923 s/n 8235
all matching & complete except for incorrect cut-off. Now has correct cut-off.

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Sporky
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Posted - 02/02/2007 : 1:24:45 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
So you're the one who got that! Congratulations, that's the highest serial number spotted yet for the 1923s.
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SteveK
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Posted - 02/14/2007 : 08:53:46 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have a #1 MK5 number A 2713 complete (including safety) made in 1924.
Steve
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OzzyDavid
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Posted - 03/10/2007 : 7:15:55 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I have a 1922 MkV Ser No.1296 all matching & complete
 

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Wiley455
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Posted - 03/10/2007 : 7:40:03 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Serial Number A506 made in 1924.
Looks like a 1960's chop job sporterization. Forend cut back, both handguards gone, auxiliary band, upper band and nose cap gone.
No US import markings. Matching bolt, correct safety, undamaged rear sight, nice bore and original blued finish. Must've been a nice rifle before the Great White Hunter got hold of it.

Serial Number 3642 made in 1922.
All original matching non-import in 97% condition. Sold it about 4 years ago and last I knew it was still in a collection in Ohio. GW
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A square 10
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Posted - 03/12/2007 : 9:47:56 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
so how many is this - just on this site , anyone take a count yet ? i have one coming ill post it [photos] when i get it
its posted below in detail , its SN 7929


dated 1923 , all matching , excelent bore
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LtlWilli
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Posted - 03/22/2007 : 12:26:39 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Last weekend, I picked up A36XX at a flea market in Louisiana. It is 1924 dated.
Pray for it all day.
Fight for it all night.
Give us just one victory.
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The Hebrew Hammer
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Posted - 03/25/2007 : 9:36:02 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Picked this one up recently





4 digit serial..... forgot to write it down and its in the safe now.
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OzzyDavid
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Posted - 03/31/2007 : 10:37:51 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I just was re-reading the topic... I posted twice at different times...Don't remember doing it.... Must be old age. Sorry about that..They say the mind goes along with the eye sight.
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Terry Willson
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Posted - 04/10/2007 : 2:07:36 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Late response! I have no 6993 with matching bolt. Dated 1923. have had it since February 1973. I Imported it from Australia.Generally in excellent condition but for one gouge in the woodwork.
Terry W
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Gav
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 11:45:31 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Hi all, I've had A611, 1924 dated, all matching with correct cut off.

Had her for about 10 years now.

She's grimy but original.



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Fushigi Ojisan
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Posted - 05/09/2007 : 11:01:02 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
I found 6209 in a gun shop in the most liberal county in Maryland. On top of that, they had it priced as if it was a Mk III!
Kebcollc.com has the correct cutoff, and it will be added during reassembly and cleaning. Here are the pics done with my Canon PowerShot A540

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KBCraig
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 01:31:54 AM Show Profile Visit KBCraig's Homepage Reply with Quote
Okay, Fushigi Ojisan... time to 'fess up about your Grand Theft Enfield, and admit how badly you robbed 'em!

Kevin
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wjkuleck
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Posted - 05/10/2007 : 07:09:23 AM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Here's the story behind mine:

http://www.fulton-armory.com/MomsGun.htm


Regards,

Walt
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Posted - 06/12/2007 : 8:46:42 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote
Some really nice rifles!!! John
 

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Here is mine

1922 dated Mk V Serial number 1911 all there and all matching.

rmeyer

I will post pictures next week! along with my sweet new lithgow! and maybe a few others I have had a busy month!
 

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I have number A 519X

I just purchased A 519X in excellent condition, original and all matching made in 1924. Now in sunny Southern California.
 

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Just sold Mark V today

Serial A391, 1924 Enfield RSAF; nonmatching bolt in unprefixed series; otherwise all matching.

Sad to see it go, but Clearing out "un-necessary" extras in reference collection ( sold also 2 of Mark I and I***, and about 30 Mark III/III* of BSA, Enfield and Lithgow origin ( 1913-1953)...Bank mananger has made a "Margin Call".

Any Aussie Buyers go to Rebel Gun Works, Brisbane in the next few weeks.

Such is life...
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Poll SMLE V

I am a brand new member to this forum and I am pleased to say that I have in my collection an immaculate example of this rather rare rifle, it is 1922 dated, serial no 5879, is all matching and virtually unused.:)
 

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MK V

My first post here! I have number 117 1922 dated. All matching except for MKIII safety. A few gouges to the wood and british civilian proofs.

Dennis in Nashville
 

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1924 dated all matching A 282x is the serial number
No import marks or ton proof marks. Nice rifle, my fav right now. Disc missing in stock.

I did find the TON marks under the top handguard and didn't notice the BNP mark on the receiver ring
 

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1922 serial 3992. All matching and all correct parts. Excellent bore and a S marked buttstock - figures since I am 6' 5"........ :D
 

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Happen to go into a local gun store and found Smle V A5531 all matching. Missing front band and Magazine cutoff everything else is correct and matching. . Is in excellent condition with mint bore $225. Could not believe the price.
 

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I have a 1924 with serial number A734. All matching in original configuration except for a mkIII safety.

I just double checked and the safety is marked "V". My mistake.


Who is the Manufacturer of the magazine? "**ILEY & Co." is printed across the back spine.
 

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I have just bought a 1924 dated rifle with serial A 1962. It appears in original configuration, albeit the magazine cut-off has a viewing hole. This viewing hole seems to have appeared on other 1924 dated rifles, so I wonder if Enfield used a batch of these cut-offs that year...

All the best
Mike
 
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