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Dutchman
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Posted - 06/11/2006 : 7:23:41 PM
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If you have either of these rolling block carbines please post photos in this thread showing the buttplate, both sides of the receiver also showing barrel & forearm s/n. This is a little survey to see if there are any obvious deviations from the basic patterns.

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capnduane
Posted - 06/11/2006 : 8:01:51 PM
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My 1870 Cavalry Carbine is dated 1877 and made by Husqvarna. On the left side it has the serial# on receiver, stock, forend, and barrel. On the otherside it has the date on the receiver, stock and forend, as well as the inspectors initals, O.K. and J.G. 1877, J.G. and a large M are marked on barrel under chamber area

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capnduane
Posted - 06/14/2006 : 7:11:19 PM
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1885 Artillery carbine arrived right on schedule, packed in a Doskosport hard case, which was inside a cardboard box, from Allans Armorey. Thank you Allan! The bore is near perfect, shiney. Action is nice and tight, as if it was made yesterday, not 131 years ago! Buttstock, which has a brass buttplate, appears to be Walnut. Forend is not numbered, and looks like beech. The serial# is on receiver, buttstock, buttplate, and barrel. The two action screws are marked with the two last numbers of the serial#. Right side of receiver and buttstock are marked with the date of 1875, buttstock also has inspectors initials of G.F. and J.G., which appear on top of the barrel just in front of the receiver as well. Bottom of barrel under chamber has 1866, initials A.F. and a large M

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Swedish & South American Mausers, Mosins, Enfields, Swiss and some U.S.


Dutchman
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 7:39:11 PM
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Your 1885 carbine stock appears to me to be birch.

I see the barrel date of 1866. Mine was 1865. Keep the loads prudent out of respect for the age of the steel as far as smokeless loads.

I have some chronographed data for the 12,7x44R with 450gr cast bullets using Unique, XMP5744 and Ffg. Drop me an email if you want the info. All were fired in a 1867 sporter with 30" bbl.

Awsum little carbines aren't they? I walked around the house with one stuck in my belt as if it were a handgun. Its that compact.

Dutchman


capnduane
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 9:16:57 PM
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Ya, took the little thing into work with me today, my guys could not believe it was a military rifle, but were impressed when they saw that BIG hole in the barrel. Also had a dummy round to display with the carbine, pretty impressive cartridge.....Put one of the French Lebel slings I got from IMA on it, looks real good. Duane

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Posted - 06/15/2006 : 7:19:13 PM
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Hi Dutchman
It took me a while, they were way in the back of the safe.

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capnduane
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Posted - 06/15/2006 : 11:07:40 PM
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Nice pair, JK! I really like the wood on the Artillery. Are these stocks Birch?

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JK
Posted - 06/16/2006 : 12:28:55 AM

Yes they are both Birch. I find it very strange that many if not most rolling block stocks are birch and none of the Mauser stocks are. Sweden even imported wood for the Mauser stocks and yet not a single Birch stock?
Best, John


rockfarm
Posted - 06/16/2006 : 10:07:10 PM

Here's my cavalry carbine. Is dated 1877 on the receiver, handguard, and stock. Serial is 1106 and is marked on stock as well as the receiver. Brass plate says KT No 9. Don't know much about these.

Any idea what the KT means?

Needed some work when I got it. Lots of rust, pitting, and the barrel was loose. Several screws pretty well buggered. Bore is ok. Saddle ring is not original. Wood was in great shape for being almost 130 years old. A hoot to shoot but accuracy isn't great. Fun little carbine!





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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 11:58:16 PM
Rockfarm, looks like you have shown pics of two different unit discs. Can you post a closeup of the disc on your Cavalry carbine? One looks like KS and the other K1?


rockfarm
Posted - 06/17/2006 : 10:05:35 AM
capnduane,
my photography isn't that great. pic of unit disk below. wish I had 2 of them!


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capnduane
Posted - 06/17/2006 : 11:47:18 AM
Rockfarm, your photos are a lot better than mine! KS is for Kriggsskolan. Your carbine appears to be from the Royal Military College, (kadettskolan). Nice!


rockfarm
Posted - 06/18/2006 : 10:44:09 AM
Thanks very much capnduane! Made my day this carbine is from the Royal Military College.
 

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Posted - 07/01/2006 : 4:18:49 PM

Today was the first chance I've had to take the 1885 Rolling block carbine to the range, that I got from Allans Armorey a few weeks ago. Loads were 300gr fnrp lead bullet and brass from Buffalo Arms. I loaded 61grs of TripleX (largest Lee dipper) Carbine shot well, not a target arm, but accurate enough! Lots of fun....

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