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This is a WW1 photo of Bulgarian soldiers.

Judging by the deep magazine I believe the rifle on the photo is M.86/90. What do you think?

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My best guess is that you are right Nick. The middle band is still in a farther forward position as in an 86, but the spacing between the front-to-middle bands and the middle-to-rear bands look equal, like an 88 or 90 would be (meaning shorter barrel than an 86). Photo is not clear enough to judge the rear sight.
 

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Some of those barrels looks pretty hefty....is lean towards 86 in 11mm

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Some of those barrels looks pretty hefty....is lean towards 86 in 11mm
First, Bulgaria never used M.86. Second, the M.86/90 barrel has exactly the same diameter as the M.86 barrel. That's why M.86/90 was heavier than M.90 despite having the same length.

Third - you can actually see the barrel size on this photo? o_O
 

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Interesting stuff.
I also note the single trench loop shield and what looks like the shadowed silhouettes of 2 soldiers heads in the foreground from above the rampart. likely the photographers.
 

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Could they be 86/88's. Is there any outward difference in appearance between the two?
And what would have been more common?

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Ok....then instead making suggestions....I'll be the devil's advocate....if it's NOT the 86/90...what model would it be?

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They seem to have the typical 88 rear sight style. Not updated. So likely 52r or so
You can tell the sight graduations from that old photo, M.88 vs M.90? :eek: Wow. I can barely tell them up close, that's why I took this photo some time ago.

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They seem to have the typical 88 rear sight style. Not updated. So likely 52r or so
I am confused by your statement. It is precisely the 8x52 (M.88/90 and M.90) that requires an updated sight - see table below. What do you mean?

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Ok....then instead making suggestions....I'll be the devil's advocate....if it's NOT the 86/90...what model would it be?
No other model has a magazine as deep as it appears on the photo. There are no other options, but M.86/90.

I've shown this before, but here it is again - a comparison of the M.86 to M.90 models. The M.86 and M.86/90 magazines are larger.

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You can tell the sight graduations from that old photo, M.88 vs M.90? :eek: Wow. I can barely tell them up close, that's why I took this photo some time ago.

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I'm going off the angel of mag/stock. Like in another person's reply. I was more so meaning it wasn't a 95 update with flat sight, just a standard 88 or 90. Thanks for the info tho, I've only got a few atm. Hope to have more variations
 

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