[Gun_Shy]

When looking at a diagram of PA 1950 parts (from the French Army 1965 "Catalogue des Ensembles Partiels et des Pieces Detachees: Pistolet Automatique de 9mm Modele 1950") it struck me that some of these parts look exactly the same as the comparable PA 1935-S M1 parts -- not surprising, since the 1950 was derived from the 1935-S M1. Of course, they may not actually be the same, but only similar.

Does anyone know the parts interchangability, if any, between the 1935-S M1 and the 1950? Obviously parts directly related to the shift from 7.65mm to 9mm would be different, but what about other parts? It would be helpful to know

Another question -- I have only scans of a few diagram pages from the 1950 parts catalogue. Does anyone know where a copy of the entire booklet, either in electronic or hardcopy, can be obtained? The same for the 1935-A, 1935-S, and 1935-S M1? How about the MAS 36 and MAS 49/56?

Finding the French Army "instruction" booklets for these is not too difficult (translations of the 49/56 booklet are even available), but I have never seen any of the parts booklets, other than the few pages I have for the 1950.

Bill

 

[vonmazur]

Diagrams

Sir: If you look at the diagrams you have, see if any of the parts have the same numbers.

As far as I know, they do not have any common parts, other than the grips screws (I think!)

If you need a PA 50 barrel, contact me, I have one.

Dale

 

[Gun_Shy]

Dale,

That's good advice, but my problem is that I have only a few scans of the diagram pages from the 1950 parts booklet. I do not have the entire booklet, nor the corresponding pages with the part names, descriptions, or part numbers (on the diagram, the parts are just labeled with the typical "a," "b," etc). One reason for wanting to get the parts booklets, or scans of parts booklets, is so I can do exactly what you suggest.

The usual exploded diagrams available online or in aftermarket books show only the major or most commonly replaced parts. The smaller and less commonly replaced parts can be more difficult to correctly identify and to find when needed. Knowing what parts from other similar guns are the same or can be safely substituted would be very helpful.

I have no parts booklets for the other French guns, but would like to know where to get them (or scans of them) since I have (most of? I forget which ones I listed) the guns.

While I am among the many who would like to have a MAC 50, I am actually trying to find out what MAC 50 parts will fit my two MAC 1935-S M1s. These parts may be easier to find as MAC 50 parts, since it is still in use by the French. If and when I am able to get a MAC 50, knowing parts interchagability will be even more useful.

A great source of documentary information on recent French military rifles is Buddy Hinton's site (http://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/), but this has no pistol information and I believe some parts information for only the MAS 49.

Bill

Sir: If you look at the diagrams you have, see if any of the parts have the same numbers.

As far as I know, they do not have any common parts, other than the grips screws (I think!)

If you need a PA 50 barrel, contact me, I have one.

Dale

 

[vonmazur]

Ze Book..

Check the fine book; "The French Model 1935 Pistols" by Doune and Medlin there is a lot of drawings with the part numbers, and some info on the Mle PA 50. If you have the part numbers, you can check.

Other than the firing pin spring and maybe the grip screws, I know of no interchangeable parts..

I have examined my Mle 50 and 35 S pistols and I cannot find anything else the same...

Dale