[THRASHIN]

Hello everyone......i have a Orbea Y Cia eibar 6.35 mm
i cant find much about it i think its a bicycles company now
i have looked on the web for hours on end and havent found much
the only other one i have come across has a patent and mine does not
the only markings on it is
Orbea Y Cia senc eibar (espana)
pistola a automatica "precision"

if anyone can tell me more about it would be great


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I couldnt figure out how to put the pics on the page

 

[Bob In St. Louis]

Orbea y Cia was a large firearms firm operating in the Eibar region of Spain well before WWI. During WWI, they turned their production to the Ruby style 32 acp semi autos and 8mm Lebel revolvers in demand by the French military. After WWI they faced the same dilemma as all the firms in that region: change product to cater to commercial demands, or get out of the firearms industry. Orbea y Cia designed several models of compact 25 and 32 ACP pistols to cater to the commercial markets during the 1920s. By the end of the 1920s, world stock market crashes and rising political turmoil inside Spain slowed firearms sales, and many firms looked to other lines of endeavour - Orbea y Cia switched to bicycles, Beistegui Hermanos switched to typewriters, etc.

Your particular piece was likely produced in the early 1920s. It also appears the grips are made of pressed horn, and have shrunk with age.

 

[THRASHIN]

i found this site and it says the patent was 1912 - 1913 mine has no patent # or s/n dont know if this means anything
http://www.littlegun.be/arme belge/copie belge/a copies belges orbea y cia gb.htm
im not wanting to sell it but curious if its worth anything


thank you bob for the info

 

[Bob In St. Louis]

The "Clement" (shown on website) was a pre-WWI product; the "Precision" (what you have)was a post WWI product. Lack of patent number and serial numbers is nothing unusual with these pistols. Based on the condition of the one you have, $75 to $100 value.

 

[THRASHIN]

i have a questions off topic
i got a few guns from my grandpa and he got them from his preacher brother in another state (both passed on now) can i register them i do know my grandpa never registered them and im not sure about his brother
im not sure what to do with them

 

[Bob In St. Louis]

If you live in Missouri, there is no such thing as "registration". There used to be a pistol purchase permit requirement, but thankfully that was thrown out by the state legislature about a year ago. What rifles, shotguns and/or pistols you own are your own business, as long as they are legal firearms (i.e., not stolen) or not in the realm of Class III (fully automatic firearms, short barreled rifles/shotguns).

 

[THRASHIN]

my grandpa brought them back from az. to mo. is that legal
he is a missouri resident. are they legal firearms the only paperwork i have is a bill of sale from my grandpa

 

[Bob In St. Louis]

THERE IS NO REGISTRATION IN MISSOURI. What guns you own are your own business. Period. As long as your Grandpa didn't steal them from somebody in Arizona, don't worry about it.

 

[THRASHIN]

thanks bob