[Mikej21]

Has anyone read January American Rifleman? On page 14 is an article
about a Obama Website that posted their want on gun control. The article lists different agenda's mentioned on the site.The NRA had stated, shortly after it went up it came down but they kept an archive of the website. (nraila.org/obama)

When you go to NRA website there's no archive, only what the NRA has tracked on Obama the past few years on his votes on gun control. There was no archive of the Obama website.


I see panicked people at the range who parrot the same quotes as you see in the American Rifleman. I see people who've never shot a gun, going out and buying them from listening to these panicked people.

I hate being lied to by anyone, even the NRA. I don't like being led by the nose for someone's own agenda.

If anyone can find that archive webpage of which the NRA speaks of I'd like to be shown the light. Because I'm tired of scare tactics and lies to move people.

 

[Mikej21]

Nevermind, I think? The article states it's an archived agenda of their real agenda (NRA archive copy, not Obama's site)

Seems kinda funny though that someone at the NRA after years of catching people making statements and using those statements against them, nobody ever thought of copying the breaking news of the OBama website of his true agenda and archiving that. If someone told me through an email of a threat against me, I'd have it copied and printed in a flash without hesitation.

Any lawyer would and the NRA is full of those guys.

 

[Mikej21]

Obama has everything to do with ammo. Thought someone might have a copy of that website that went down. Thought maybe we'd all be enlightened.

 

[Mikej21]

I found an article about the 500% increase on ammo. The smoking gun you might say.

Oh, I guess this would be the wrong site to post it on. Nevermind.

 

[Mikej21]

You weren't discussing Obama, you were defending Obama, and bashing the NRA.

No, I just expect my side to be the side of honesty as I read that article in my edition of the American Rifleman (because I support them). I was hoping to get someone who documented that website to bring it forward since my side (NRA) didn't have the foresight to copy it. (I wanted to read it.

I've been in management most of my life and the first thing you do is document, document, document, and I'm surprised that the NRA didn't do it which bothers me.

But all I got was someone with a sick in his yahoo screaming commie socialist against the NRA.

There's a bright bulb for ya.

If the NRA posted that a website showed who assasinated Kennedy and then you went to the website and saw only an old article documenting past judgements wouldn't you be a little miffed?

Sorry to get off track here, but I doubt anything will be done the first few years because he'd want to be re-elected and frankly to have a black Pres. take away your gun rights would bring more of a disasterous outcome than a white Pres. doing the same thing. Revolt would be magnified.

So enough of this. If anyone has a copy of this Obama website I'd like to see it and not have hearsay panic people. I'm just that way. Been trained the last eight years to think this way regarding politics. Been trained the last 30 years to expect more from the NRA.

 

[Mikej21]

It's http://www.archive.org .

Carcano

Great start! Now what would the address have been for the Obama website?

I'll drop a line to the NRA.

 

[Mikej21]

It's here, http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cach...cy"+site:+change.gov&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Thank you, that's what I wanted to read. I don't know why the NRA couldn't have done the same.

Smart man Mike O

 

[Mikej21]

You are out of touch to question this information-- it is not new and was available when voting took place. Too late now. We will be able to thank voters like you when the shot hits the fan. I have never seen a lie by the NRA, splitting hairs maybe, but the bottom line is always truth. They deserve our support, we wouldn't have a hobby if they had not been there the past 40 years.

I question everybody. I'm a show me kind of guy.

And I get even more leary when I receive avidavits for me to sign turning over all my voting rights to the NRA. An uneasiness comes over me of how anyone could even ask that in America.

Mike O wins the gold ring for the day.

 

[Mikej21]

This has been copied from the obama website

Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

 

[Mikej21]

Mikey , This is somehow good for America ?. Once the these socialist swine get their foot in the door it about takes a hatchet to get them out !. They support , they support , they also support.... more symbolism over substance yet again. Pardon me , I need to go acid rinse my eyeballs after reading some of this bunk.
Now back to ammo !!!!.

HEY DILDOE,
I never sugggested it was GOOD for America.

I just wanted to see the original webpage and not be redirected to an NRA article. What you quoted me on is from the original Obama webpage that Mike O had the brains to find. I thought someone else would like to read it.
I just wanted to read the original print and not have someone translate it for me. I can read between the lines on my own.

 

[Mikej21]

I read the article in question. It was quite scary. No exaggerations. After NRA reported about it, the Obama folks pulled it off. That should tell you something right there. Either Obama changed his mind about it.....or it is being hidden.

I do wonder though, as there are those people who make Obama into some sort of Godly Messiah I do think there are those who make him out to be Satan himself and I think this waiting for him to be inaugurated
is killing us to see what's going to befall us.

Now, the only good deals I see on ammo anymore is still Wal-Mart. The web seems to be dead after you get into shipping.

 

[Mikej21]

One last note;

For those who was wondering about me contacting the NRA to lead me to the Obama website or copy of the site (Before Mike O. showed his internet savvy), they did get back. They only directed me back to the NRA article.