Russia has been in the game longer but don't ever underestimate the chinese. China has more money to throw in the game, and of course people.
Not trying to deviate from the original subject, but I read several articles (with pictures) showing British citizens protesting their gun laws..........and wanting their guns back. I agree with Webley One, but from another angle. How could the country that gave us the Webley pistol and Enfield rifles (and many others) sink so low? The Industrial Revolution began in Great Britain. When it came to developing machine tools and engineering, they showed the world the way. Seems to me that the "elite" forces in Great Britain have a misguided view that everyone is a gentleman or a lady........so firearms simply aren't needed in their society. Then you read about the stabbings, mass murders, etc. and you begin to see why the people want self defense to be recognized as a basic human right.Well....I don't believe that is correct.A quick search of you tube shows plenty of shooting still going on in Britain these days.
Originally Posted by caerlonie
The root of it all seems to be the great American paradox: an exceptional objection to being governed, and yet an unwillingness to interfere with the man in charge.
That is why Governments have gun control.The end of the Great war,unfortunately also marked the end of the relatively free availability of rifled firearms in Britain.Largely through fear of revolution or insurrection of the working classes, by the British establishment of the day.Completely misguided but that is what history tells us.
I think we have interfered with the man in charge when warranted. What was his name?? George and some number....you know, the one whose ancestors you still bow too on bended knee....
I would say YOU do not get it.Some can't get it - in both NZ and Oz, the Monarch is the head of State, but if required to become involved on any matter, follows the advice of the countries PM/elected government. The 1700's are long gone.
Unlike the US today, there is NO possibility of a substitute for the Monarch dictating what a particular outcome may be. There is no executive power, it is down the respective Houses of Parliament in either country.
The problem now seems to owe more to a reluctance to turn on authority figures. It is several years since there could have been sufficient unease to do a very satisfactory patchup job on the NRA and its influence on government.The above comments are an excellent example of the problem for gun owners. Gun owners have a history of fighting among themselves and tearing down organizations that have been formed to protect their rights. Meanwhile, anti-gunners are pretty much a unified block. We are our own worst enemy and it may well turn out to be our down fall as the anti-gun groups become more organized and better financed as we have seen in the last few years.
No one insults GB, they just say that you have lost your right to bear arms, which you had . You live at the will of your government , who with the swipe of a pen , can take away your rights that you previously held. Our Bill of Rights and Constitution, specifically denied the Government that ability which was the sole purpose of our Revolution !!T
As to insults against Britain, . It is hard to separate cause from effect, but it is connected with no country in western Europe having a rate of intentional homicide more than around a quarter of that in the US. In fact if you believe all that pathetic flatulence about the free availability of firearms reducing violent crime, the natural rate of Americans to kill each other must be in even greater proportion. There are not negligible considerations, except to an aging and shrinking demographic who are willing to have others die for what they want.
As for my supposed hatred of Americans, Deplorable as America's attitude on race may be,
His comment was directed at all of us who are Americans !!Caledonian is not disliked, he's a member here and you can discuss issues with him without constantly berating him personally. His "pathetic flatulence" comment was not directed at you Pinkie so tone it down. Just discuss, not insult.
Who cares? It was his opinion, opinions are like butt holes everybody has oneHis comment was directed at all of us who are Americans !!Caledonian is not disliked, he's a member here and you can discuss issues with him without constantly berating him personally. His "pathetic flatulence" comment was not directed at you Pinkie so tone it down. Just discuss, not insult.
Originally Posted by Caledonian
Deplorable as America's attitude on race may be,
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/meghan-markle-british-racism-what-her-saga-says-black-britons-n1132181According to supporters, they were driven out by toxic coverage in the British media, which often veered into racist harassment and bullying.The collateral damage extends far beyond the palace walls. For Ladapo and others, Meghan's treatment has sent a damaging message to young British people of color, who perhaps saw her as a sign that racial prejudice might be finally ebbing away.
"This has been a very rude awakening," said Ladapo, who studies economics and is president of her university's African-Caribbean Society. "It reminded us that we shouldn't get too comfortable, and no matter how much we think we are accepted into society, we really aren't."