[Lenscrafter]

A Mount Prospect guy aka ZOZO or KITKAT did not do anything with this rifle. It is all correct, period.

Lc

 

[Lenscrafter]

Colored bolts? The black ones are refurbed, the brown ones are original.

Lc

 

[Lenscrafter]

Rifle was imported into Canada in the 80s or 90s (my guess is out of Yugoslavia) and wandered into the US sometime later. Parts appear to be original to the gun but stock is sanded, refinished, and renumbered. Some of these have the metal refinished as well, but it is hard to tell from the pics. All of these are 43 dated AVT and most have the original factory metal parts (not all!) and some even have their original stocks though all of them will be renumbered vertically.

Price is absurd. I paid less for my untouched vet bringback.



All bolts were blued after late 1941.

Actually, nobody knows how and when these rifles came into US, there are very few of them in US and it is all factory original. Stocks are original and had serial numbers added vertically probably by whatever country military requirements.

Price is not outrageous - how many of 1943 SVTs in such condition are known to exist in US? A dozen? Maybe two dozens?

Is your untouched bringback a 1943 SVT40? I bet its not 1943 dated


Lc

 

[Lenscrafter]

Here is an example of post-war Eastern European rework which only had one original part - a receiver, and Electropencilled numbers sold for over $1600:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=401269452

Times are changing, prices are changing too, less and less freebies at the gun shows these days.

 

[Lenscrafter]

You sound biased. To me the rifle sold for to much and was falsely advertised. The title claimed that is was a "non rebuilt" and it clearly has had some things done to the stock, like on this import marked refurb:

And it looks to me like the stock has a large crack in it on the left side.

If it was rebuilt rifle- the stock would have an arsenal repair like this arsenal rebuilt import marked rifle advertised as "historical artifact":

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=412207417

How many original SVT rifles do you own to call this one falsely advertised?

Here another re-arsenaled rifle with all non-original parts and a total refurb that sold for over $1700:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=406056037

Or how about this POS ?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=400068412

 

[Lenscrafter]

How is my owning many of these rifles relevant to this rifle being worked on post war? How many I own has nothing to do with weather this rifle has had something done to it post war by either a collector or an army. That is a silly question, which by the way I do own a matching rifle that is not rebuilt or import marked, matching even includes the magazine. How many of those have you seen? So can I get $4000 for my rifle? The point I am making is that the seller was a little misleading with his title. I am not saying he did it on purpose but that does change the fact that his rifle is not the way it was when it left the factory in 1943, therefore it has been rebuilt to some extent. Now that said, he took pictures and people knew what they were buying. I am not complaining, just commenting on the fact that I think it was a little to high. But perhaps you are correct and these rifles are increasing in price.

The only thing on this rifle that was not when it left the factory is the crack in the stock. But what exactly was rebuilt?

Also it would be a great contribution to this forum if you post detailed pictures of your rifle with matching magazine.

 

[Lenscrafter]

The stock is original and looks like all 1943 dated stocks supposed to look, maybe pictures are not super good with light reflection, and the same serial number stamped vertically was probably a requirement in whatever military unit so that it was visible in the rifle rack or wherever it was stored.

So are you going to post detailed pictures of your rifle? It may be worth $4000 IMHO.

 

[Lenscrafter]

Horilka,

It's been a month since I asked you to post pictures of your 1943 rifle
Still waiting. Regarding this one, sold on GB, this was the best 1943 rifle in original configuration known to exist in US. Yes, crack is a minus, but without it the price would be close to $4000
If anybody has a better one- please post pictures

 

[Lenscrafter]

Nice rifle, but this is not 1943 made rifle. And without seeing GB rifle I would not claim it is refinished.
There are many experts who claim they know how 1943 rifle should look but nobody has the righteous example
They also understand that the chances of getting one like this at the price of refurbed refinished rifle got much slimmer than two days ago.

 

[Lenscrafter]

There have been numerous postings of original 43/44 rifles from Ukrainian and Russian collections including the photos Ratnik just reposted. You are simply choosing to live in denial.

There is a thread on 1943 rifles on this Forum which ends with my polite request to anybody to post pictures of what is all original 1943 SVT-Gorilka claimed he had one- still waiting for the pictures for a long time now.
All these Russian and Ukrainian collections are just pictures taken at museums through the display windows, all inconclusive

 

[Lenscrafter]

Yes, sure, just like 95 percent of bring back papers are faked according to you

And of course plenty of 1943 rifles in Ukraine

 

[Lenscrafter]

Bring backs were mostly imported before 1968 unless there is bringback papers present

 

[Lenscrafter]

!!!!!

Bring-backs were brought back, hence the name.

I meant to write: "so-called bring backs"

 

[Lenscrafter]

Nice rifle, $1,600.00 back in 2010 was a reasonable price. Check the links I posted above and you will see what can $1,600 can buy you in 2014. There is no definitive proof where these rifles came from, could be from Grenada after US liberated it in 1983.

 

[Lenscrafter]

No, I sold this one:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=415748382

 

[Lenscrafter]

Sorry to start something and not get back to it, I don't get much forum time these days. Lenscrafter, are you the seller in this auction?
SlimTim

Slim Tim,

Are you the buyer/ importer of 8000 Molot PUs that AIM started to sell now?

 

[Lenscrafter]

in this case the definition of "yes" is "tardy"

Lc